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BT1024
10-27-2005, 09:42 PM
I saw on another thread, that "ChargerSXT" ordered his Mopar Catback - and it has arrived at his dealer.

I ordered the Mopar V6 Catback from my dealer, last week (10/20) - and I have not heard back from them. Though, maybe it will be in soon and I can answer some of my own questions.

1) I was wondering "who" else has ordered the Mopar V6 CatBack exhaust ?
2) If you ordered it, was there and extra part needed (as "ChargerSXT" noted) ? - What was the extra part (part number ? ) ?
3) What were you charged for Labor (how many hours) ?
- My dealer quoted 3 hours for the install.
- (EDIT: I forgot this one the first time I posted)

- Also, after folks get it installed, I would like to hear other peoples reviews and or any issues with the install.

- ChargerSXT, how did you make out with your exhaust ?

- Once I my order comes in - and after it is installed, I will post some notes. (Hopefully there won't be any installation issues).

Thank you,
Brian T.




1quick1
10-27-2005, 10:19 PM
How much is it?

BT1024
10-27-2005, 10:27 PM
Mopar V6 Catback Exhaust - Part #82209611 - MSRP is $426.

- Then there's the install labor costs - I was told that it would take 3 hours to install - so, I'm not sure what the labor rate is - I think it's something like $70 -per hour. So, I guess that I will be hit with a $210 labor charge as well.


Brian T.

spoonerock
10-27-2005, 10:36 PM
Mopar V6 Catback Exhaust - Part #82209611 - MSRP is $426.

- Then there's the install labor costs - I was told that it would take 3 hours to install - so, I'm not sure what the labor rate is - I think it's something like $70 -per hour. So, I guess that I will be hit with a $210 labor charge as well.


Brian T.
3 HOURS!!!!!!!!!

Now I know how they are making their $$$$. Seriously, it took 15 minutes to install my Zoomers at a small general auto repair shop and cost me $20 plus another $20 to buy the mechanic lunch!

I don't think I would have the dealer do it for that....Take it to a small independent! There's REALLY not that much to it. :whistle:

06sxt06
10-27-2005, 10:41 PM
Full intact warranty?

spoonerock
10-27-2005, 11:15 PM
Full intact warranty?
That's the great debate on any aftermarket mod that you do. My understanding is that Dodge cannot void your entire warranty unless it can be proved that the mod was the direct cause of a factory component failure.

The Zoomers have a lifetime warranty that will outlast the car!

BT1024
10-27-2005, 11:19 PM
Well, I think you are right about them charging too much.

- About a week or so ago, I found a "Mopar price list" PDF file from a GOOGLE search, that had the labor calculated as $60 for the install. I have the list printed out - But, I just searched again and I cannot find that PDF file on the web (it was from some dealer).

- Tomorrow, I think that I will call a couple other dealers to get a quote on the install price.

- When the stuff comes in at my dealer, I will ask them again "how long will it take" - if it doesn't line up (fairly) with all the other numbers and dealer quotes, I will go somewhere else.

Thank you,
Brian T.

1quick1
10-28-2005, 12:19 AM
Well, let me ask you guys this. Since this is my first new car. Installing it myself won't affect the warranty right?

spoonerock
10-28-2005, 12:23 AM
Well, let me ask you guys this. Since this is my first new car. Installing it myself won't affect the warranty right?
It might affect the warranty on the exhaust system if you don't have a certified auto mechanic install it (especially if it is installed incorrectly)! You would have to check with the manufacturer of the system.

DoctorNo
10-28-2005, 06:51 AM
In Florida, the exhaust system should have reached the distribution centers this week as I was going to have it installed last Saturday when I had the 15,000 mile service done on my SXT but was told it would not arrive at the centers until this week. I was told by the dealership that it should take no longer than 45 minutes to install based on the info they had available (and since obviously they have not installed one before).

As you are having MOPAR parts installed at a Dodge dealership and the exhaust is part of a manufacturer marketed GT package, I have to believe that it will not invalidate your warranty.

As my ride will be due for its next scheduled service right before Thanksgiving, the exhaust will be an early Christmas present :santa:

ChargerSXT
10-28-2005, 11:00 AM
Sorry for the delay in responding.

I just talked with my service dept. rep, and he is checking to make sure that there is in fact another part required to install the exhaust system. He's supposed to call me back sometime after lunch. I'll let you know what I find out.

He also said that the installation charge on my exhaust is about $100. That doesn't sound too bad to me. I'll get the exact amount before I give them the green light to put it on.

Finally, does anyone have/know the full technical specs on the system, or know where to get them? I've been looking for quite some time, and I haven't been able to find anything, and no one at Dodge has been able to help me.

Thanks.

BT1024
10-28-2005, 12:29 PM
- a quick note from me, at work:

- I just got a call from my Dealer - and my exhaust has come in. I've scheduled the install for Monday morning.

- I asked the parts department and the service manager about any additional parts, and they said to the best of their knowledge - no extra parts were needed.

- This time, I asked the service guy (and not the parts guy), how long the install will take - and he said 45 minutes to 1 hour (maybe a little more time needed, because this would be the first install of this model exhaust).

- ChargerSXT, I'm not sure what specs you need - But, I am going to ask my dealer to give me the installation instructions when they are done.

Brian T.

ChargerSXT
10-28-2005, 12:41 PM
- a quick note from me, at work:

- I just got a call from my Dealer - and my exhaust has come in. I've scheduled the install for Monday morning.

- I asked the parts department and the service manager about any additional parts, and they said to the best of their knowledge - no extra parts were needed.

- This time, I asked the service guy (and not the parts guy), how long the install will take - and he said 45 minutes to 1 hour (maybe a little more time needed, because this would be the first install of this model exhaust).

- ChargerSXT, I'm not sure what specs you need - But, I am going to ask my dealer to give me the installation instructions when they are done.

Brian T.

Brian T.,

Thanks for the info. The technical specs that I am looking for are basically how the system is made. Is it mandrel (sp?) bent or crush bent? Where does the second exhaust exit/tip originate? Is the "Y" pipe replaced with an "X" pipe and the two sides are run separately, or does the "Y" pipe remain and the second exit/tip comes off of the one pipe (i.e., not a true dual exhaust...like most aftermarket "dual" exhausts on pickups are done)?

(Did I ask those questions correctly? Do they make sense? I know what I mean, I just don't know if I got my question across correctly or clearly.)

Also, what size are the pipes and tips?

I, too, asked my service guy to double check what the parts dept said about the other part required for installation. I haven't heard anything back yet, but I'm thinking that your service guy is correct and that my parts dept is not (and I'm not bagging on them for it, people do make mistakes sometimes).

Can't wait to get it installed! Now I just need a CAI. :happy:

Dear Santa.... :santa:

a14umbra
10-28-2005, 12:43 PM
- a quick note from me, at work:

- I just got a call from my Dealer - and my exhaust has come in. I've scheduled the install for Monday morning.

- I asked the parts department and the service manager about any additional parts, and they said to the best of their knowledge - no extra parts were needed.

- This time, I asked the service guy (and not the parts guy), how long the install will take - and he said 45 minutes to 1 hour (maybe a little more time needed, because this would be the first install of this model exhaust).

- ChargerSXT, I'm not sure what specs you need - But, I am going to ask my dealer to give me the installation instructions when they are done.

Brian T.

Norco?

ChargerSXT
10-28-2005, 03:12 PM
I talked with my dealer again and found out about the "other part required." I was wondering if they were thinking that they needed to order a new rear fascia (sp?), and I was correct. They thought that the Charger was like the Magnum, and that they needed to replace the rear fascia in order to add a second cutout for the dual exhaust. Not many people (especially dealer-wise) know that the SE/SXT has the second cutout already. :confused:

Anyway, he said that he would try to get my exhaust on tonight, before I came to pick it up. :happy: I sure do hope that they are able to do so. If they are, there will be pics either tonight or tomorrow morning. :happy:

spoonerock
10-28-2005, 03:50 PM
I talked with my dealer again and found out about the "other part required." I was wondering if they were thinking that they needed to order a new rear fascia (sp?), and I was correct. They thought that the Charger was like the Magnum, and that they needed to replace the rear fascia in order to add a second cutout for the dual exhaust. Not many people (especially dealer-wise) know that the SE/SXT has the second cutout already. :confused:

Anyway, he said that he would try to get my exhaust on tonight, before I came to pick it up. :happy: I sure do hope that they are able to do so. If they are, there will be pics either tonight or tomorrow morning. :happy:
Good Luck!!!! I know you have been waiting for this for a LONG time! :happy:

boots
10-28-2005, 05:19 PM
Hey all,

Is Mopar's dual exhaust kit for the V6 SE/SXT made from stainless Steel, or Aluim. coated pipe ? Or just steel ?

I would like to intall Zoomer's kit but the dual kit is a bit high, although it is SS (stainless steel) and being from the North East it would last as long as my Charger. Just somthing for me to think about before buying. :confused:

ChargerSXT
10-28-2005, 05:58 PM
MY BABY IS BACK AND SHE IS SPORTING THE LATEST IN MOPAR STAINLESS STEEL DUAL EXHAUST ACCESSORIES! :happy:

That's right. My dealer was able to get the exhaust installed. It looks and sounds AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cool:

When I first got in and started her up, I thought that I was going to be disappointed. It sounded too quiet. But, much to my pleasure, I found that the system doesn't really start to "sound off" until you get into the gas.

The system is much like the HEMI system in that the two tubes go into a big collector/muffler, and then split off each side, into two different resonators, and then out chrome tips. The sound is actually pretty throaty, especially for a V6.

I may end up doing what our HEMI breathern have done and remove the resonators and replace them with straight pipes (but not any time soon...I'll let the warranty run out first).

I tried to take pics, but it's too dark and they didn't come out. I'll post some tomorrow.

Anyway, more later. Dinner's ready.....

BT1024
10-28-2005, 08:46 PM
Norco?


- I'm not sure why you are asking, but yes - from Norco.

- I haven't given up on the service deparment, even though when they did my "freebie" oil change, the left it 1 quart short. I hope that there aren't any mistakes with the exhaust install.
- After my terrible "sales" experience, I still would like to develop a relationship with the dealer - I am treating my "service" experience on a different "slate" - I tolerate a lot, and will forgive the "1-quart" low incident (though, I'm wondering if they used the correct oil weight).
- and in 5 years, depending on how things go here on out, I will most likely go back there for my next car purchase - But, I will avoid the salesperson that sold me this car.

Who do you know really well, at Norco ?

Brian T.

BT1024
10-28-2005, 08:51 PM
MY BABY IS BACK AND SHE IS SPORTING THE LATEST IN MOPAR STAINLESS STEEL DUAL EXHAUST ACCESSORIES! :happy:
That's right. My dealer was able to get the exhaust installed. It looks and sounds AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cool: ................................."

Congratulations, I hope that both you and I remain happy with the exhaust upgrade.

- Did you get a dealer special %10 off of the $456 price ?
- My dealer said that I get %10 off all accessory purchases (purchased there) for a long as I own the car.

- Also, don't forget to mail in your Mopar $25 dollar rebate.

- I will be getting mine installed Monday morning, so - I'll let you know how it goes.

Hey, one last thing - are you goign to make the Drive up to englishtown Race way this saturday (9am) for the High Horse Performance event ?
- I will most likely be going (from PA).
- You are in Virginia, correct ?

Brian T.

BT1024
10-28-2005, 08:59 PM
Hey all,Is Mopar's dual exhaust kit for the V6 SE/SXT made from stainless Steel, or Aluim. coated pipe ? Or just steel ?
I would like to intall Zoomer's kit but the dual kit is a bit high, although it is SS (stainless steel) and being from the North East it would last as long as my Charger. Just somthing for me to think about before buying. :confused:


- Below, is all the info I have on it (ChargerSXTdid note that it was stainless steel).

- Here is the "write-up" for the exhaust, from Leeparts.com:
Dodge Charger Cat Back Exhaust System
Replaces you Dodge Charger SXT existing exhaust system
Giving you a throaty dual exhaust that meets all emission requirements
System includes chrome tips and utilizes all existing OEM mounting locations
Stainless Steel Construction
Available for 2006 Dodge Charger With 3.5L Engine
Covered by Mopar's 12 Month/12,000 Mile Parts and Accessories Warranty
Ships within 3 business days
Our Price $425.00

boots
10-28-2005, 09:16 PM
BT1024,

Thanks for the information, Now I am just going to set back and watch for the photo's :whistle:

ChargerSXT
10-30-2005, 06:32 PM
Here are the picks (finally) that I promised of my exhaust.

1BADHEMI
10-30-2005, 06:44 PM
Hey Chargersxt, What Size Are Those Tips??? They Look A Little Smaller Than The Borla 112's ... Just Checking...thanks For Your Help..

ChargerSXT
10-30-2005, 06:55 PM
The tips are about 3-1/2" by 2-3/4".

And Brian T., I did get the 10% discount and I have the $25 rebate to send in. :happy:

dalucifer
10-31-2005, 03:44 AM
I picked up my v6 charger bout 2 months ago and it came with a borla exhuast system from the dealer. Looks pretty much the same as yours. If it is the borla, it will get louder once you get about 1000 miles on the exhaust. Have fun with it.

ChargerSXT
10-31-2005, 06:27 AM
Cool. Thanks for the info. I really like the sound now, and if it gets better after 1,000+ miles, even better. Can't wait. I may want to make it louder once the warranty runs out, but I haven't decided for sure yet. Shoot, I have a year to think about it. :happy:

BT1024
10-31-2005, 02:01 PM
Here's my quick update (I gotta run in about 5 minutes) -
I got my (Mopar V6) exhaust done this morning - I got the car back aroung 12:15pm - Then took it for a long ride:

The exhaust sounds good - though, you don't notice it when you start the car or at idle. But, once you hit the gas, it has a nice growl.


ChargerSXT - Thanks for posting pictures - now I know that I got the right exhaust on my car. - I say that, because I think it looks "Wimpy" and I thought that mabye they installed something off of a Neon on my car.

- So, as I said - the/MY Tips look "Wimpy" - definitely not what I expected. And I'm not sure I like them. They don't look anything like the tips on the R/T.

- Anyhow, I don't own a digital camera, but my friend does - so, I'll try to get some pics tomorrow, at work.

- The reason why I will post some pics, is so that you can see (I need witnesses) how they have my right tip angled, where it does not match the left tip. Now, I'm not sure if they weld the tips on at the dealer or they come that way - But, I'm gonna have to take mine back to get adjusted.

- Also, it looks Like ChargerSXT's exhaust is a little higher up in the body-cutout that mine is - So, one I get the pictures you can see what I mean.

Gotta go - gotta be at my sister house by 4pm for Halloween stuff.

Brian T.

Flat Broke
11-01-2005, 07:02 PM
Here are the picks (finally) that I promised of my exhaust.


Cool lookin' job. Question for you. The part number you have listed, is this Mopar?? We were just given a part number from our Dodge Dealer today P4510855 and were told the price is $899.00. Does this sound like it might be for the 8 instead of our 6 ?? Wanted your input and opinion.
Flat Broke/Pearl Black SXT Thanks :confused:

BT1024
11-01-2005, 07:12 PM
Well, Day #2 with the new exhaust.

ChargerSXT,
- I hope that when I posted that my exhaust tips look "wimpy", that I didn't offend you. It was my opinion about my Mopar exhaust - which is actually the same as yours, but you have your own opinion about how it looks - and I am interested in what you think.

**Do you think the Chrome Tips could have been a bit bigger in diameter and maybe run a little deeper/longer back to the resonator ?
** Do you think that the tips fill in the body molding exhaust cut out, well enough - or do you think there's a lot of open space ?
** Were you expecting the end result to look more like a stock R/T exhaust ?

- I showed the exhaust to a friend of mine, from work, and he thought that it looked "OK" - but, he drives a BMW 530 series - so, I don't really think he has a "EYE" for the Charger.

Anyhow, other than that, I think it sounds great.

- As far as my "angled" right exhaust tip, I may have to fix that on my own - I see where the right rear pipe section is "strap" -clamped to the right part of the "Y" section - So, I'm going to try and loosen that clamp and the rotate the pipe counter-clockwise so that the resonator and tip rotate counter-clockwise, so that the narrow curve of the oval tip is at 9 pm and 3 pm. Right now, it's more like 9.5 pm and 3.5 pm (to use the clock face analogy). I just hope there's enough "play" in the mounting (rubber) grommets to make the adjustment.

Brian T.

BT1024
11-01-2005, 07:26 PM
Cool lookin' job. Question for you. The part number you have listed, is this Mopar?? We were just given a part number from our Dodge Dealer today P4510855 and were told the price is $899.00. Does this sound like it might be for the 8 instead of our 6 ?? Wanted your input and opinion.
Flat Broke/Pearl Black SXT Thanks :confused:

- I posted the part number - and that is the correct number for the Mopar V6 Catback exhaust. I originally got that number from a parts listing that I found on the Web - And now, my receipt for the (V6 Mopar CatBack) exhaust install, also has the same number on it - so, that is correct.

Also,the price for the Mopar V6 Catback Exhaust - Part #82209611, is $426.

The part that they quoted you for, is for the V8 (Hemi) - I just looked it up on "leeparts.com"

>
Mopar performance cat back exhaust systems include mufflers
Feature T304 stainless steel construction with mandrel bent tubing, stainless band clamps and polished tips
Free flowing systems provide a horsepower and torque gain, improved fuel economy and a deeper tone
Cat-Back Exhaust — 4.25" x 3.50" Oval Tips, Dual Outlet
Mopar Performance Parts are sold as is, with no warranty
Mopar Performance Parts are Non-Returnable
Available for 2006 Dodge Charger with 5.7L Hemi Engine
Ships Within 3 Business Days
Our Price $775.10

If you click "Add to cart" for the 5.7L Hemi exhaust - it comes up with this:
Dodge Charger Mopar Performance Exhaust - P4510855 Price: 775.10

Brian T.

Flat Broke
11-01-2005, 08:15 PM
- I posted the part number - and that is the correct number for the Mopar V6 Catback exhaust. I originally got that number from a parts listing that I found on the Web - And now, my receipt for the (V6 Mopar CatBack) exhaust install, also has the same number on it - so, that is correct.

Also,the price for the Mopar V6 Catback Exhaust - Part #82209611, is $426.

The part that they quoted you for, is for the V8 (Hemi) - I just looked it up on "leeparts.com"

>
Mopar performance cat back exhaust systems include mufflers
Feature T304 stainless steel construction with mandrel bent tubing, stainless band clamps and polished tips
Free flowing systems provide a horsepower and torque gain, improved fuel economy and a deeper tone
Cat-Back Exhaust — 4.25" x 3.50" Oval Tips, Dual Outlet
Mopar Performance Parts are sold as is, with no warranty
Mopar Performance Parts are Non-Returnable
Available for 2006 Dodge Charger with 5.7L Hemi Engine
Ships Within 3 Business Days
Our Price $775.10

If you click "Add to cart" for the 5.7L Hemi exhaust - it comes up with this:
Dodge Charger Mopar Performance Exhaust - P4510855 Price: 775.10

Brian T.


Great! Will be back at the Dodge Dealer tomorrow with your info to order ours. Thanks for researching and for the quick response. Hope to be able to return the favor sometime. Thanks again. Mike H.

BT1024
11-01-2005, 08:27 PM
Great! Will be back at the Dodge Dealer tomorrow with your info to order ours. Thanks for researching and for the quick response. Hope to be able to return the favor sometime. Thanks again. Mike H.

- Good luck with the install, not sure if you are having it done at the dealer or if you are doing it yourself -

- The dealer where I bought my car is giving me (all their customers) a %10 discount on all parts ordered (and on service) Though, they need to be installed at their dealership - Check with your Dealer to see if they can do that as well.

- One other note, shortly after you bought your car, you should have received a "Mopar"/ Dodge packet in the mail, in which there was a $25 rebate coupon, good for any accessory purchases of (I believe it was) $250 or more- So, you can send that for your exhaust purchase.
NOTE: The rebate requires the purchase to be made before 11/6 - and I believe it has to be mailed in/post-marked by sometime in December.

- One other note: If you didn't get the Dodge/Mopar packet, with the rebate, I believe you can download/print a copy from some location on the Dodge website.

Brian T.

boots
11-01-2005, 08:33 PM
Between ChargerSXT's photo's, and BT1024's updates, I had to order my Mopar exhaust today.(alot cheeper than Zoomer's and still Stainless steel)

The parts guy I deal with said they already had one on the way for another customer so my'in would be the secound on one order already. I guess it does'nt take long for the word to get out.

Thanks guy's for your photo's and thoughts :wink:

spoonerock
11-01-2005, 08:49 PM
Well, Day #2 with the new exhaust.

ChargerSXT,
- I hope that when I posted that my exhaust tips look "wimpy", that I didn't offend you. It was my opinion about my Mopar exhaust - which is actually the same as yours, but you have your own opinion about how it looks - and I am interested in what you think.

**Do you think the Chrome Tips could have been a bit bigger in diameter and maybe run a little deeper/longer back to the resonator ?
** Do you think that the tips fill in the body molding exhaust cut out, well enough - or do you think there's a lot of open space ?
** Were you expecting the end result to look more like a stock R/T exhaust ?

Brian T.

Hi Brian,

It sounds like the Mopar exhaust is not exactly what you had expected. I think that it is important that we all share our views as much as possible on these mods, especially for the V6, so please continue to post your observations.

I also think it is important, where possible, to post both pics and sound clips so others can compare before making a purchase decision. I know Magnaflow is soon to come out with their version of the single/split dual exhaust that will compete with the mopar unit at comparable cost, so all the pics and clips we can post will be helpful to all.

Also, what did your dealer charge you to do the install? I would take it back if you don't like how they did the alignment!

BT1024
11-01-2005, 08:58 PM
"Flat Broke" and "boots",
After you get your exhaust installed, or by looking at the posted pictures:

1) Do you think the Chrome Tips could have been a bit bigger in diameter and maybe run a little deeper/longer back to the resonator ?
2) Do you think that the tips fill in the body molding exhaust cut out, well enough - or do you think there's a lot of open space ?
3) Would you have expected the end results to look more like a stock R/T exhaust ?

- I posted similar questions for ChargerSXT - I'm curious about what he thinks.

- You know, maybe I'm just "crazy" - I have never owned a car with dual exhaust tips - so, who knows.

Brian T.

BT1024
11-01-2005, 09:14 PM
Hi Brian,
It sounds like the Mopar exhaust is not exactly what you had expected. I think that it is important that we all share our views as much as possible on these mods, especially for the V6, so please continue to post your observations..................I also think it is important, where possible, to post both pics and sound clips so others can compare before making a purchase decision...............Also, what did your dealer charge you to do the install? I would take it back if you don't like how they did the alignment!

Spoonerock,
That is true, I expected thicker diameter exhaust tips - one's that ran a little deeper/longer (back to the resonators).

- But, I do like the sound of the exhaust - Also, it's hard to tell, but maybe the exhaust and the "air-hog" filter replacement gave me a little more "Pep" - So, overall, I would give the upgrade a 7.5 out of 10. (-2.5 because I'm not too pleased with the exhaust Tips).

As far as the Pics, a friend of mine managed to "snap" 2 shots of the rear of the car (exhaust) - so, I will post them as soon as he e-mails them to me. The pics looks exactly like ChargerSXT's setup, except my right tip is rotated out of alignment.

- As far as audio clips, I will try to record something from the interior and exterior - But, it won't be able to do it until the weekend.

- As for having the Dealer correct the issue, I made mention of the "rotated" right exhaust tip to the Service rep - They were busy and barely worked my car in for the install (even though I had an appointment). So, I told him I may bring it back later.
- I know how those service guys have got their hands full - a lot of cars lined up for service and not enough time to get them all done - So, I'm sure that they would get p*ssed with what they would perceive as a "nit-picking" customer.

I'm off next Friday - so, I may try to take it in for an adjustment. NOTE: It does not look like it is really their fault, because the exhaust tips were welded on at the Mopar plant - the only thing they could do, is try what I noted in my previous post.

NOTE: For the install, I paid apprx $383 for the exhaust and $76 for labor.

- I'm curious, by looking at the posted pics, what is your opinion/answer to the questions I posted.

Brian T.

spoonerock
11-01-2005, 09:57 PM
Spoonerock,
- I'm curious, by looking at the posted pics, what is your opinion/answer to the questions I posted.

1) Do you think the Chrome Tips could have been a bit bigger in diameter and maybe run a little deeper/longer back to the resonator ?
2) Do you think that the tips fill in the body molding exhaust cut out, well enough - or do you think there's a lot of open space ?
3) Would you have expected the end results to look more like a stock R/T exhaust ?

Brian T.

Brian,

I am not sure that you would get a very unbiased answer from me. Especially since I'm totally in love with my Zoomer. But, here goes:

1. I think 4" round tips look best (but that is what I have).

2. They should be deeper, but I also don't like the resonators. You could cut them off and put straight pipes in, but you would void your warranty, and I don't know how much drone you would experience as I don't know how well the muffler is designed to address that. I would think that if it does, there would be no need for the resonators in the first place.

3. There is open space there in the cut-outs, but I don't feel that it is subtantially undersized.


4. I don't mean to be harsh, but for under $400, I don't think one should expect to see a close similarity with the RT.

As with everything, I respect anyone's decision because if you like it, it is good enough for me!

I wanted the best on the market (which I firmly believe is the Zoomers). I spent a couple hundred more than you, and ended up with 1/2 of a great exhaust system. I still have a gaping hole where the other cut-out is, but I can live with that. Even if it means that I have 50% open cut-out space.

Someday, I may spend the extra $600 and get the other half of the system. But for now, I feel I am getting the power, performance, and partial look that I want & can live with. :happy:

Besides, after your warranty expires, you can always go out and get a set of aftermarket tips that you like and have them installed!

Yes, Zoomers sells those too! :grin:

Disclaimer: This has not been a paid advertisement for Zoomers, but I won't mind if they did! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

spoonerock
11-01-2005, 10:22 PM
Zoomers Duels . Is this the look you're looking for?
Mighty nice if you ask me! :yes:

BT1024
11-01-2005, 10:52 PM
Zoomers Duels . Is this the look you're looking for?

Viper and Spoonerock,
Now that was the kind of exhaust tips that I was looking for (the ones in the silver SXT picture). That looks really nice. How much for the whole setup ?

Viper, that looks like a "true" dual exhaust setup - in fact, it is.

- How does that sound ?

- Spoonerock, you know, I may just get replacement tips and see if I can get an exhaust shop to put them on (of course, I will check around about installation before I buy them.). At this point, I'm not too concerned about the warranty on the exahust - I don't think that anyhting will go wrong with it, where I will need warranty service.

- I will ponder this for a month or so - maybe have some herbal tea (the beverage kind), with my friend Yoda :) .


Brian T.

BT1024
11-01-2005, 11:55 PM
The "The Crooked tip" - sounds like something that someone phones in to the cops. Or, when a gangster tips a waiter. Or, a "cow tiping" gone bad, or it sounds like a "best selling" novel.

Seriously though, I have attached pics of my RIGHT side "crooked tip"....

Images:
1) A "dark" image - Straight left and Crooked right Oval tips
2) A "dark" image - "center" lines drawn through Oval tips, to show RIGHT side angle ("crookedness")
3) Straight left and Crooked right oval tips
4) "center" lines drawn through Oval tips, to show RIGHT side angle ("crookedness")
Also, notice in picture #2, I put little red arrows pointing to the "strap" clamp, where you can clearly see the bolts. I know that that is not the Dealer's/installer's fault - I just pointed it out, because I'm not too pleased with that showing - But, that's what makes it a "Bolt-on".

Brian T.

ChargerSXT
11-02-2005, 06:54 AM
Brian,

Sorry for the delay in responding. I wasn't online last night. I was too busy watching San Antonio get their rings and then hand it to Denver. :happy:

To answer your questions/concerns:

- I hope that when I posted that my exhaust tips look "wimpy", that I didn't offend you. It was my opinion about my Mopar exhaust - which is actually the same as yours, but you have your own opinion about how it looks - and I am interested in what you think.

No offense taken. Personally, I like the tips.

**Do you think the Chrome Tips could have been a bit bigger in diameter and maybe run a little deeper/longer back to the resonator ?

I didn't want anything too big. To me, 4" tips, and bigger, are too much. The MOPAR tips give me the subtle look that I want.

** Do you think that the tips fill in the body molding exhaust cut out, well enough - or do you think there's a lot of open space ?

I think that the tips look great in the openings. I like that there is some space between the tips and the cut outs. I think that if you go too big with the tips, it may start to look cramped, especially if the diameter of the tips is greater than the diameter of the cut outs (does that make sense?).

** Were you expecting the end result to look more like a stock R/T exhaust ?

I didn't have any expectations about my SXT looking like an R/T. In fact, another reason I like the MOPAR tips is that it is different than other Chargers (oval tips vs. larger round tips).

Again, these are just my opinions. Each person here has different tastes, likes, and dislikes. There are some things that people here have done to their cars that I would never do because they're not my taste/style, but I won't begrudge anyone for doing it to their car if it is what they like. That's the beauty of car mods....no two cars/owners are, or will be, exactly alike.

I will try to get a sound clip of the MOPAR exhaust and post it. I may need help posting it, though, so stand by...

ChargerSXT
11-02-2005, 06:59 AM
Zoomers Duels . Is this the look you're looking for?

That is a nice setup! The Zoomers are just too rich for my blood right now, and I didn't want to wait any longer than I had to to fill that gaping hole in the back on the driver's side. :embarrese

I really like how these cars are set up for true dual exhausts. The MOPAR system replaces the "Y" pipe with a muffler and then splits off to the dual resonators/tips.

boots
11-02-2005, 06:46 PM
[QUOTE=ChargerSXT]That is a nice setup! The Zoomers are just too rich for my blood right now, and I didn't want to wait any longer than I had to to fill that gaping hole in the back on the driver's side. :embarrese

I am thinking on the same lines that ChargerSXT is, for the price of the Mopar exhaust you can't go wrong. Yes, the Zoomer's sound great and look good, but for $900.oo plus shipping,the Mopar exhaust is looking damn good.

BT1024, I would contact your dealer and have them correct the right side tip. That would drive me up a wall. But as far as the size of the tip, LOOKS FINE. Take a while if they still look small after a couple weeks or so, add some aftermarket tips. With the money you saved by going with the Mopar set up, you should have a few extra bucks.....

I have ordered my exhaust from Mopar, and hope it will be in by late next week. Got to fill in that driver side cut out. :happy:

BT1024
11-02-2005, 11:40 PM
- I think that I found the answer to my "small" exhaust tips:

http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3491

See the attachment.

Brian T.

ChargerSXT
11-03-2005, 06:46 AM
Which "tips" are you trying to enlarge? :whistle:

mywhitecharger
11-03-2005, 08:45 AM
Anyone have the price on the 3.5 Duals?

ChargerSXT
11-03-2005, 09:23 AM
Anyone have the price on the 3.5 Duals?

I'm assuming that you mean the MOPAR duals???

List price on the MOPAR duals is, I believe, $425.00. There are a few of us whose dealer has given us a 10% discount, which knocks the price down to about $380.00. Then, there is a coupon from Dodge that some have received for a $25.00 rebate for purchases over $250.00.

Installation has run mainly between $50.00 and $100.00.

mywhitecharger
11-03-2005, 09:44 AM
Nice - Thanks.
Yes - that is what I was talking about.

I've got to fill that hole on the drivers side rear bumper. It stares at me every time I walk up behind her.

charger Bill
11-08-2005, 03:49 PM
Hi: I'am one of the new guys on the block. I have been following your discussions about the Dodge factory dual exhaust. I have an 06 SXT that my wife and I purchased in June. I ordered the dual system from my dealer and picked it up last Saturday. I had a local muffler shop install it Monday morning. The installation only took 1 hour and all parts to do install were in the kit. The kit replaces the original "Y" pipe with a new one with a 21/2" outlet that attaches to the new muffler. The muffler is a side inlet, center outlet so it ends up in the same place as the old muffler. There is a new "Y" pipe that attaches to the mufller and splits into 2 2" pipes that lead to the resanators and the tips. The exhaust has a good sound, not to loud, but a lot better than the stock system. I think it has helped low and mid range torque a little and better throttle response. Will have to see about gas mileage. Hope this helps someone make a decision on buying a kit.

BT1024
11-08-2005, 06:42 PM
Charger Bill,
Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully the feedback given and the pictures that were posted by ChargerSXT, will help people with their decision when considering the Mopar CatBack and other exhaust upgrades.

- As far as posting audio clips of the sound - I'm not sure if that is necessary - But, if I have time, I may post some.

- As far as the pictures I posted, hopefully that will give people and idea of what not to expect after the installation of the Mopar CatBack exhaust - Meaning hopefully they won't end up with one of their exhaust tips rotated upward, thus not matching the angle of the other tip.

***For everyone that has followed my complaint about the Tips being too small (and how I didn't like them), I have changed my mind - It took a while, looking at them everytime I got out of the car - But, now - I think the size of the tips is fine (no need for the "enhancer" > http://www.chargerforums.com/forums...read.php?t=3491
).

- I'm taking my car into the dealer on Friday, because my compressor is always running (when the fan is on - But, the defroster and A/C are off) - So, I asked them to look at straightening the right tip so it matches the left.


Brian T.

Flat Broke
11-09-2005, 07:29 PM
Here are the picks (finally) that I promised of my exhaust.

Charger SXT, thanks for the information on the Part # for the Mopar Dual Exhaust. Ordered it on 11-2-05, it came in 11-4-05. Had it installed today. Mrs. Flat Broke picked it up and loves it. Sounds great and looks great. I'll drive it tomorrow. :sad:

BT1024
11-10-2005, 08:09 PM
Charger SXT, thanks for the information on the Part # for the Mopar Dual Exhaust. Ordered it on 11-2-05, it came in 11-4-05. Had it installed today. Mrs. Flat Broke picked it up and loves it. Sounds great and looks great. I'll drive it tomorrow. :sad:

- Flat Broke,
You are welcome - I started the thread with the part number in the title.

- Also, When you asked for the part number a while back, I immediately posted the following for you (right after your post)-

- I posted the part number - and that is the correct number for the Mopar V6 Catback exhaust. I originally got that number from a parts listing that I found on the Web - And now, my receipt for the (V6 Mopar CatBack) exhaust install, also has the same number on it - so, that is correct.

Also,the price for the Mopar V6 Catback Exhaust - Part #82209611, is $426.

The part that they quoted you for, is for the V8 (Hemi) - I just looked it up on "leeparts.com"

>
Mopar performance cat back exhaust systems include mufflers
Feature T304 stainless steel construction with mandrel bent tubing, stainless band clamps and polished tips
Free flowing systems provide a horsepower and torque gain, improved fuel economy and a deeper tone
Cat-Back Exhaust — 4.25" x 3.50" Oval Tips, Dual Outlet
Mopar Performance Parts are sold as is, with no warranty
Mopar Performance Parts are Non-Returnable
Available for 2006 Dodge Charger with 5.7L Hemi Engine
Ships Within 3 Business Days
Our Price $775.10

If you click "Add to cart" for the 5.7L Hemi exhaust - it comes up with this:
Dodge Charger Mopar Performance Exhaust - P4510855 Price: 775.10

Brian T.

my06chargerr/tandse
11-14-2005, 07:07 AM
hey brian were you in ny last weekend? because i was driving into the mall and i got cut off by a blue se then he ran the stop sign LOL :santa:

BT1024
11-14-2005, 10:57 AM
hey brian were you in ny last weekend? because i was driving into the mall and i got cut off by a blue se then he ran the stop sign LOL :santa:

Actually, I have only been to NY once - and that was when I was about 6 - or 7 years old (in 1973-74).

- So, it was not me.


Brian T.

SoCal SXT
11-14-2005, 04:09 PM
Thanks you have also helped me make my decision, I will be going with the Mopar exhust.

BT1024
11-14-2005, 08:39 PM
Thanks you have also helped me make my decision, I will be going with the Mopar exhust.


- SoCal SXT,
You may want to try and get in on this "Group Buy" for the Mopar V6 Dual exhaust - (though, it doesn't look like anyone has gone for it yet).

- LINK > http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3735&highlight=group

- $349.95 plus shipping, is not a bad price (it's a Great price, considering I spent $383.00 for mine).

Brian T.

SoCal SXT
11-15-2005, 09:16 AM
I will look into it, but I dont want to wait to long with the holidays coming. I think I can get it for between $365 - $385 and no shipping locally.

Thanks.