Preliminary Jet Chip/CAI Observations

[spoonerock]

The following is a technical discussion of installation and preliminary road test:

Date: October 14, 2005

Subject Vehicle: 2006 Dodge Charger SXT (V6 3.5L engine)

Performance Modifications:
One (1) Airaid “Quick Fit” cold air intake
One (1) Jet Performance Chip – Stage 2

Previously Installed Performance Modification:
One (1) Zoomers single exhaust cat back system
One (1) AC/DC Power Booster

Installation of subject performance modifications commenced at 7:30 PM local Chicago time. The Airaid CAI was installed first. Total time to install was approximately 30 minutes. Total install time may have been shortened if subject mechanic didn’t have to interrupt install to service a malfunctioning cable box for said mechanic’s offspring. Overall, installation proved to be nominal, as subject CAI does not require removal of temperature sensor. Subject CAI utilizes existing factory air induction tubing. Upon completion of installation, the subject vehicle was started and observed for any installation malfunctions. As none were recorded, installation of second performance modification commenced.

Total time to install second performance modification (Jet Stage 2 Chip) was approximately 30 minutes. Total install time may have been shortened if subject mechanic didn’t have to AGAIN interrupt install to service a malfunctioning cable box for said mechanic’s offspring. Removal of standard wiring harness was also nominal. Installation of chip did require approximately 1000 lbs. ft. torque pressure in order to get the subject performance modification to seat properly. Reinstallation of wiring harness did prove to be a minor challenge to the said mechanic. The challenge was abated when said mechanic loosened attached sway bar, and had Mrs. mechanic insert the wiring harness as Mr. mechanic applied reverse torque pressure on said sway bar until the subject wiring harness was fully relocated in its original position. There was no tearing or other injury reported to subject vehicle’s protective shielding.

Once installation was completed, said mechanic reconnected the negative battery terminal, and the spent the next 30 minutes attempting to reprogram the digital time keeper. Upon ignition engagement, the said mechanic recorded no warning indicators that would have caused postponement of further subject vehicle testing.

The subject vehicle was then assigned to a qualified performance test driver who proceeded to drive the subject vehicle, at a low rate of speed, approximately one mile to a certified test track in the middle of a deserted warehouse district. The aforementioned test driver moved the subject vehicle into launch position, and then applied sudden full acceleration. For a moment, the test driver noted no forward movement from the subject vehicle, but did note significant shuddering accompanied by a very high pitched squealing noise and a shifting of the subject vehicle’s aft section. Then the test driver experienced overwhelming G-forces and blacked out!





Guys, I had just laid ten feet of rubber! No more little “chirps” for me!!!

I now will build a permanent shrine in my home to GoDaddy for talking me into the stage 2. I will return to him the “wise man” robes, as I am no longer worthy. I also bestow the “King” title to a14Umbra because GoDaddy wishes it! I am now just a humble deputy in the service of his court!!!!!!!!!

This is a different car now! The acceleration is unbelievable!!!!! I simply can’t believe what this V6 engine is doing now, so I am going to sign-off and drive 500 miles through southern Wisconsin this weekend (Hockey games). And so I say again………………………………..

For those about to rock….we salute you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GoDaddy]

man, i am so freaking happy for you!!!!!!!! i figured you would feel a difference but we haven't had much feed back from the 6 guys so this is AWESOME! loved the write up man! congrats and go burn those tires up brother.

[BT1024]

Spoonerock,
I've been waiting for your report - I passed the time by reading all of the "BS" in the "Carry a gun in the car ?" post. Thanks for posting your report (which was written very well and very entertaining :) ).

So, now I can get back to car stuff:

I am planning on getting the Mopar Cat back exhaust for my "SE". And I may go for the CAI and the Stage 2 chip -

I will just be curious as to how these mods work over time. I would hope that the "computer control" doesn't re-learn over time and end up cancelling out the changes. (I saw on another forum where someone believed that happened with the air intake mod that they did).

Anyhow, if possible could you "PM" me in about 2 weeks or XXX number of miles, to let me know if your car is still performing well.

- "2" last things:
1) When you "Laid rubber", I would assume that was with ESP off - correct ?

2) Did you change the Thermostat on your car (Low temperature) ?

Thank you,
Brian T.

[spoonerock]

Anyhow, if possible could you "PM" me in about 2 weeks or XXX number of miles, to let me know if your car is still performing well.

- One last thing, when you "Laid rubber", I would assume that was with ESP off - correct ?

Thank you,
Brian T.

Thanks.....You bet I'll keep you guys filled in!

I always drive with the ESP off. Probably won't turn it on till the snow starts flying!

Thanks again......I'm juiced about it...Or couldn't you tell.. :laugh: :yes:

[spoonerock]

2) Did you change the Thermostat on your car (Low temperature) ?

Nope....Everyone said I didn't have to, but I'll keep an eye on it!

[BT1024]

Sorry, I had edited my previous post, so you may have missed my question about the thermostat -

- Did you install the 180 degree Thermostat (as they recommend)

2 other (new) questions:

1) I looked on the Jetchip.com website, but could not find the stage 2 for the 3.5L V6 - what part number is yours ?

2) I saw that they also recommend using 91 octane in the car - do you have 91 octane in it now - or plan to use 91 octane ?

Thank you for your assistance,

Brian T.

[spoonerock]

man, i am so freaking happy for you!!!!!!!! i figured you would feel a difference but we haven't had much feed back from the 6 guys so this is AWESOME! loved the write up man! congrats and go burn those tires up brother.
How may I serve you Master?

[BT1024]

NOTE: I'm a slow typer - so, I just caught your answer about the Thermostat.
Just curious about the other 2 questions.

Thanks,
Brian T.

[BT1024]

ooops, my mistake -

I just found the 3.5L info, under the Magnum listing

05-05 2.7/3.5L Stage 2 Part # 90405S

Is that the one you bought ?


Brian T.

[spoonerock]

1) I looked on the Jetchip.com website, but could not find the stage 2 for the 3.5L V6 - what part number is yours ?

2) I saw that they also recommend using 91 octane in the car - do you have 91 octane in it now - or plan to use 91 octane ?
#90405S Module:
Dodge Magnum V-6 auto
Chrysler 300 V-6 auto
Dodge Charger V-6 auto

Today, I had about half a tank of 87, so before I did the install, I went and filled it with 93. I intend to run 89 which I have done since I bought the car. My wife put the 87 in by mistake last week (she thinks it takes the same as her PT Cruiser) :embarrese

[BT1024]

#90405S Module:
Dodge Magnum V-6 auto
Chrysler 300 V-6 auto
Dodge Charger V-6 auto

Today, I had about half a tank of 87, so before I did the install, I went and filled it with 93. I intend to run 89 which I have done since I bought the car. My wife put the 87 in by mistake last week (she thinks it takes the same as her PT Cruiser) :embarrese

- Alrighty, Thanks again for the info.

- I'll keep an "eye out" for any follow up info from you (if possible, "PM" me your performance observations in a week or two).

Brian T.

[spoonerock]

Just got back from a weekend of driving around southern Wisconsin. I wanted to check my MPG since my installs. This also includes my Zoomers cat back that I had installed about 3 weeks ago. Prior to the cat back, Jet chip, and CAI installs I was averaging around 21-22 combined MPG. This weekend I drove 400 miles on a single tank of gas (pulled into the gas station running on fumes). I did approx. 30% local, 30% highway & 40% backroad driving, and got 23.5 MPG.

Tried to keep the speed to 65 MPH or less, but couldn't resist the temptation to "light em up" a couple times, and once took it to 110MPH (on a lonely stretch of backroad) before I chickened out (think I might have goten 24+ if I didn't do that).

The car still has GREAT Pick-up, and virtually no hesitation when accelerating from a stop. I can just "blow by" other cars when passing.

I'll have to figure out a way to time my 0-60 without going to a track.....

Cat back actually sounds a little quiter at idle or cruising at 2,000RPM or less, but sounds much more "angry" when engine is under rev or acceleration.

Still Lovin' it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wave:

[Punisher]

You have to take your car to the track. That is the only way to check your mod to see if they improoved the performance. I took my rt last thursday night and will install the stage 2 chip and race again this thursday night to see the difference.

[spoonerock]

You have to take your car to the track. That is the only way to check your mod to see if they improoved the performance. I took my rt last thursday night and will install the stage 2 chip and race again this thursday night to see the difference.
Anyone know of a track in either Chicago or SW Wisconsin where I could try that? :confused:

[Punisher]

OK thats my bad. Maybe you can buy one of those g meteres to check yours.
Luckily here in memphis the track is open for test and tune . My best time last week was a 14:25 at 97.6 mph. I was very happy with that. We will see what the stage 2 chip does for it this week.

[Bad_24_7]

Ok guys, a lot of info for the stage 2 chips, and i'm thinking of getting one now.i just want to clear up some things please bear with me:
1.180 degree therm not needed, chip will work fine, no harm to anything?
2.if i put in the 180 therm, no real benefit?
3.with the chip in, will using 87 or 89 octane hurt anything?
4.the chip improves fuel efficiency increasing MPG?
thanks.

[Punisher]

1.They say the 180 degree tstat will help with detonation since the engine will now be running about 20 to 25 degrees cooler. That is the reason for the tstat and i will be installing a 180.
2. As for the gas you can run 89 but 91 would be better for performance if you are taking it to the track to race it. 91 will also help with the detonation.
3. As for your gas mpg the chip will only help about 1-1.5 mpg if you can keep yoyr foot out of it. As for me my mpg will probably go down because i know i cant. By the way, what does that quote of yours mean. I am thinking a little NOS. Its going to take alot more than that to smoke my ride. I have a 68 that runs 10:90 at 124 mph. Hah. :monster: :monster: :monster:

[spoonerock]

Ok guys, a lot of info for the stage 2 chips, and i'm thinking of getting one now.i just want to clear up some things please bear with me:
1.180 degree therm not needed, chip will work fine, no harm to anything?
2.if i put in the 180 therm, no real benefit?
3.with the chip in, will using 87 or 89 octane hurt anything?
4.the chip improves fuel efficiency increasing MPG?
thanks.
As you can probably guess, I am good at lyrics, OK at comedy, but not so great on the technical stuff, soooooooo:

1. Of everyone I asked before making the purchase, no one seemed to think that I had to have the t-stat, and there was no significant impact.

2. The stage 2 is really better when you use a higher octane, otherwise you not really utilizing it to its potential. I'd do the Stage 1 with you were determined to use 87 octane. I'm going to alternate between 89 & 91/93 for a while to see if there is any noticable difference.

3. Unfortunately, I couldn't tell you if the cat back, CAI, chip, or a combination of the above that improved gas mileage (of course I am certain that it had to be all three when I'm discussing this with the Mrs!).

4. The one thing I know of for sure with the chip, is that I got an immediate boost of take-off power with no more engine hesitation.

Hope that helped a little..........

[Bad_24_7]

1.They say the 180 degree tstat will help with detonation since the engine will now be running about 20 to 25 degrees cooler. That is the reason for the tstat and i will be installing a 180.
2. As for the gas you can run 89 but 91 would be better for performance if you are taking it to the track to race it. 91 will also help with the detonation.
3. As for your gas mpg the chip will only help about 1-1.5 mpg if you can keep yoyr foot out of it. As for me my mpg will probably go down because i know i cant. By the way, what does that quote of yours mean. I am thinking a little NOS. Its going to take alot more than that to smoke my ride. I have a 68 that runs 10:90 at 124 mph. Hah. :monster: :monster: :monster:

Thanks for the info, by the way, I have my M16 in the back seat,sometimes with my fireteam. :happy:

[spoonerock]

1.They say the 180 degree tstat will help with detonation since the engine will now be running about 20 to 25 degrees cooler. That is the reason for the tstat and i will be installing a 180.
Sorry, I'm one of the "old farts" around here, so I'm guessing that the 180 Tstat helps for when you are racing, and not necessarily beneficial for daily tooling around, yes?

[spoonerock]

Just another quick update...............

For those who like to lay V6 rubber with the stage 2 Jet chip, I have found that I can only do it when the car is still fairly cold. After I drive it around a while, and the engine heats up, I'm back to only the "chirps." Engine temp does not seem to affect acceleration otherwise.

Maybe this has something to do with the Tstat? Just throwing it out there for comment :happy: .

[Punisher]

Not really. The lower temp helps with stop and go traffic which helps eliminate ping. The maker of the chip doesnt say to install the 180 for no reason at all

[spoonerock]

Not really. The lower temp helps with stop and go traffic which helps eliminate ping. The maker of the chip doesnt say to install the 180 for no reason at all
I haven't experienced or noticed any ping yet, but I am guessing that I should probably make the trip to NAPA this weekend just to be safe?

[Punisher]

Ping is the detonation of the valves and unburnt gas. When your temperature runs cooler it is able to compress more gas into the cylinder and create a larger combustion. I am sorry to be so technical but someone out there will question what i am saying. A 180 tstat will lower the engine temp in the range to eliminate ping. By the way,ping is sometimes hard to hear. The best way to hear if your engine is pinging is to put it under a load in 3rd or 4th gear and give it half throttle. If you do not hear any ping then you should be OK :) :)

[BT1024]

- About the thermostat change to the 180 degree type, for when I go with the Chip, intake and (mopar) exhaust mod:

1) The chip upgrade itself won't void the warranty, but how about changing out the stock thermostat ?

2) The last time I changed a thermostat, was in 1987, on a 1978 mercury zephyr - and I believe that was locate in in or around the water pump - does anyone know where it is located on the Charger (I would guess that you have to drain all of the antifreeze) ?

Thank you,
Brian T.

[spoonerock]

- About the thermostat change to the 180 degree type, for when I go with the Chip, intake and (mopar) exhaust mod:

2) The last time I changed a thermostat, was in 1987, on a 1978 mercury zephyr - and I believe that was locate in in or around the water pump - does anyone know where it is located on the Charger (I would guess that you have to drain all of the antifreeze)

I knew this link was around here somewhere. Just took me a little while to find it.

Hope this helps on the install side! :happy:

http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=17759

[lg68jcu]

how much does one of these bad boys run?

[spoonerock]

how much does one of these bad boys run?
If you mean the thermostat........I've seen other posts that put it somewhere between $6-17 bucks.

[Bad_24_7]

I knew this link was around here somewhere. Just took me a little while to find it.

Hope this helps on the install side! :happy:

http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=17759

I read the link, one guy says he didnt do the drain, is our charger set up the same way and is the draining necessary?

[spoonerock]

I read the link, one guy says he didnt do the drain, is our charger set up the same way and is the draining necessary?
Here is a bunch of really GREAT "IFs" for you:

1. IF I can find an auto parts store that as one in stock.......... :neutral:

2. IF I can justify "Just on more thing pretty please" with the Mrs.......... :embarrese

3. IF I can find the time this weekend to install it around 4 hockey games........ :confused:

4. and IF I don't screw it up............. :cry:

I'll let you know by Monday :whistle:

[spoonerock]

Here is another update...... :rolleyes:

2nd week after Jet Stage II & CAI installs, four weeks after Zoomers install.

Did 320 miles of all city driving (lots of stop & go on Chicago's famous "expressways"). Didn't do any better than rated 19mpg (actually it was 18.9mpg) over 320 miles driving on 89 octane.

Acceleration response still very good. I kind of like the fact that it is a little quieter in the interior at cruising speed, and growls at acceleration.

Filled in with 93 octane today to see if I feel any difference this week.

When to three auto parts stores and couldn't find a 180 t-stat in stock at any of them (Autozone, PepBoys, Quest). :sad: Will look further this week!

Still very happy that I made the investment!! :yes:

[BT1024]

- Spoonerock,

I e-mailed "Jet Performance Products" support, to ask them about the Thermostat and to check on compatability among the 3.5L v6 models- and here is their response:

"All of the 3.5L are the same in these cars. We use the same module. You will not need any tstat for the V6. Gains are around 11-13 horsepower at the wheels.

Thanks

JET Performance Products
800-535-1161
sales@powerbyjet.com
www.jetchip.com "

- So, it does not look like you will need to do the Thermostat change.

Brian T.
(I ordered my Mopar "Dual" Catback exhaust - not sure when it will be in).

[spoonerock]

- Spoonerock,

I e-mailed "Jet Performance Products" support, to ask them about the Thermostat and to check on compatability among the 3.5L v6 models- and here is their response:

"All of the 3.5L are the same in these cars. We use the same module. You will not need any tstat for the V6. Gains are around 11-13 horsepower at the wheels.

Thanks

JET Performance Products
800-535-1161
sales@powerbyjet.com
www.jetchip.com "

- So, it does not look like you will need to do the Thermostat change.

Brian T.
(I ordered my Mopar "Dual" Catback exhaust - not sure when it will be in).
Thanks Brian!

It's kinda funny.....every auto parts store counter person that I spoke with last week looked at me cross eyed when I asked the for a 180 T-Stat. One even told me that Dodge doesn't make Chargers anymore. Had to take him out the front door to prove it to him! BTW - He did say that it was a "SWEET" ride!! :happy:

[PikeBoy98]

Now you guys have me doubting my comfort level with my stock V6. I bought it hoping that I would just drive the wheels off and enjoy it as is. Now that I know there are some cool things to add some real power to the car, I am very interested. To run the Stage II chip they recommend 91 octane and a high flow exhaust. I would hate to settle for the Stage I and then spend the same amount when I get around to upgrading my exhaust.

Too many things to ponder.... Not enough cash.....

Later

[spoonerock]

Well, I guess it's time to get a two week update on my post Jet Chip/CAI installs. Quick MPG recap:

1. Tank #1 half n' half mix of 87 & 93 octane. Drove 400 miles and got 23.5 MPG (1-2 MPG better than before install). 30/30/30 City, Highway & Back Road driving.

2. Tank #2 all 89 octane & all heavy city driving. Drove 340 miles and got 18.9 MPG.

3. Tank #3 all 93 octane. Drove 365 miles and got 21.8 MPG. 35% Very heavy city driving & 65% highway.

Observations:

1. Not much impact on MPG based on Octane usage that I can tell.

2. Acceleration responsiveness still very good. The difference has not been very noticable between the 89 & 93 octanes.

3. I think the chip has more influence on power than gas economy, and may actually negatively impact MPG. The CAI & Cat Back may be making back the MPG that the Chip loses.

The added boost of acceleration & power still has me grinning, was well worth the investment, and a great value to boot! :yes:

[spoonerock]

Well, I am just a few days short of a month since I installed the Stage II Jet Chip and Airaid CAI, and six weeks out from my Zoomer install. I have put approx. 1,500 miles on the car over the last month, so I guess it's safe to say that this is the last of my preliminary observations.

My 4th tank of gas (89 octane) over 365 miles of 50/50 city/highway driving netted 22.3 MPG. so here are my final observations:

1. For daily driving, there is little noticeable difference between 89, 91 or 93 octane with either MPG or power.

2. A 180 degree thermostat does not seem necessary with the V6.

3. Biggest benefit has been throttle and acceleration responsiveness. Engine hesitation has been almost completely eliminated. Step on it..and she GOES!

4. Best acceleration from a standing position is when the engine is still somewhat cold (best for laying rubber). I can still gets the "chirps" after it has warmed-up, but I need to power brake it a little to get a real good "screech".

5. I think the CAI has made the exhaust system a little more free flowing, and therefore a little more "throaty" under acceleration.

6. I am seeing the MPG gains when highway driving, with little to no improvement in city driving. On my last tank, I had over 200 miles of hwy driving with about 5/8ths of a tank remaining. The final 165 miles were all city which used up the rest.

7. If the computer has learned the Jet Chip and made adjustments, I sure haven't been able to tell up to this point.

In the final analysis, I would have to say that the addition of these mods have been well worth the investment. Together, they have made an already satisfying ride that much more enjoyable!

If you are planning to do the mods now or in the future, and you have to prioritize the installs, this is the order that I would recommend:

Exhaust
Chip
CAI

Now get your wallets out AND GET GOING! :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[PaCharger]

Great input spooner...glad to hear the dreaded, computer learning the jet chip didnt happen.

[Thunderkiss]

Well, I am just a few days short of a month since I installed the Stage II Jet Chip and Airaid CAI, and six weeks out from my Zoomer install. I have put approx. 1,500 miles on the car over the last month, so I guess it's safe to say that this is the last of my preliminary observations.

My 4th tank of gas (89 octane) over 365 miles of 50/50 city/highway driving netted 22.3 MPG. so here are my final observations:

1. For daily driving, there is little noticeable difference between 89, 91 or 93 octane with either MPG or power.

2. A 180 degree thermostat does not seem necessary with the V6.

3. Biggest benefit has been throttle and acceleration responsiveness. Engine hesitation has been almost completely eliminated. Step on it..and she GOES!

4. Best acceleration from a standing position is when the engine is still somewhat cold (best for laying rubber). I can still gets the "chirps" after it has warmed-up, but I need to power brake it a little to get a real good "screech".

5. I think the CAI has made the exhaust system a little more free flowing, and therefore a little more "throaty" under acceleration.

6. I am seeing the MPG gains when highway driving, with little to no improvement in city driving. On my last tank, I had over 200 miles of hwy driving with about 5/8ths of a tank remaining. The final 165 miles were all city which used up the rest.

7. If the computer has learned the Jet Chip and made adjustments, I sure haven't been able to tell up to this point.

In the final analysis, I would have to say that the addition of these mods have been well worth the investment. Together, they have made an already satisfying ride that much more enjoyable!

If you are planning to do the mods now or in the future, and you have to prioritize the installs, this is the order that I would recommend:

Exhaust
Chip
CAI

Now get your wallets out AND GET GOING! :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

I have the stage 2 on my R/T.

Yesterday I was on a county road that has a 45 mph SL posted. I was on the road for 21 miles. No lights, some hills.

I set the cruise at 55 and averaged between 35-42 mpg.

[spoonerock]

I have the stage 2 on my R/T.

Yesterday I was on a county road that has a 45 mph SL posted. I was on the road for 21 miles. No lights, some hills.

I set the cruise at 55 and averaged between 35-42 mpg.

That is where I am jealous of you RT guys! You got that neat little MPG indicator in the dash, where I have to calculate between each fill up! :confused:

I'll bet that's pretty close to right tho.....my needle barely moves when I have it on cruise between 55-65 MPH :happy:

[mywhitecharger]

Hey Spoon - You are getting over 350 miles to the tank? WOW.

How is everything going with the ride? Still running like a charm?

[spoonerock]

Hey Spoon - You are getting over 350 miles to the tank? WOW.

How is everything going with the ride? Still running like a charm?
Put on my first +400 mile tank of gas this weekend (420 miles at fill)! I got 24.7 mpg on that tank which was mostly hwy miles with about 10% city driving. Cruise was set at 70 mph most of the way, so I probably could have "squeezed out" a couple more mpg had I been cruising at 55 - 60 mph.

Took my baby in for an oil change this weekend. Every mechanic in the place stopped what they were doing to have a look at my car. They all were drooling over the Zoomer and Airaid CAI. It was pretty funny watching six guys wash my windows, check tires, etc. They must have started her up about five times to hear the exhaust.

When they were done, the head guy comes out and tells me:

"that is some kinda car you got there, it sounds so GREAT, and it only has the V6! I didn't know that you could get it to sound That Good!!"

I had the biggest grin on my face, cause I know these guys see one hell of a lot of cars every day. For them to give that much attention to mine, well......

All I can say is that my wife was with me, and her only comment was "I suppose you're going to be incorrigible for the rest of the day!"

You damn skippy I was! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[PaCharger]

Too funny spooner. Glad things are working out well for you....extra mileage per gallon is a bonus, right? Love when people give you those types of reactions.

A police captain stopped me in church this morning to ask if i had my car over at the sports complex yesterday, he knew my plates, and loved the car...!!

Then we went to breakfast, and my 10 year old tells me, "dad, everyone you passed in the parking lot just stopped and stared....honest dad, they did...."

Pretty cool having a unique car.

[spoonerock]

extra mileage per gallon is a bonus, right?
Well that's the logic I try to pull on the Mrs. every time I want to add some new mod! I wonder why it doesn't always work? :confused: :whistle:

[SoCal SXT]

What CAI does anyone recommend? I have the mopar duel exhaust and I am getting the stage 2 chip.

[charger Bill]

I've had good luck with the K&N cai unit. Installation was easy and have been pleased with the performance. I did notice some sotp improvement and better throttle response. It also sounds much better when you punch it. It is also a pretty good looking piece. :happy:

[vipere]

Anyone with the JET Stage 1 notice a difference in top speed? It varies for some reason. Sometimes it will stop at 118 and other times it will fly past 120. Any ideas??

[Aggression]

I don't have any chip and I was flooring it and going at LEAST 125 on the freeway and I didn't hit my cars top speed. I stopped at 125 because my buddie in front of me slowed down (He must of picked up a cop with his valentine 1)

My friend infront of me has an Infinity g35 (A 3.5L) and its like he has a v8 compared to me for acceleration :( I know its a lighter car and he has a chip for his car and a CAI but his accelerates soooo much faster, it almost makes me cry :( The only mod my car has is an exhaust depot setup and I am hoping that with a CAI, Jet 2, (possibly headers) I will be able to smoke him.

[Samoan Tsunami]

I don't have any chip and I was flooring it and going at LEAST 125 on the freeway and I didn't hit my cars top speed. I stopped at 125 because my buddie in front of me slowed down (He must of picked up a cop with his valentine 1)

My friend infront of me has an Infinity g35 (A 3.5L) and its like he has a v8 compared to me for acceleration :( I know its a lighter car and he has a chip for his car and a CAI but his accelerates soooo much faster, it almost makes me cry :( The only mod my car has is an exhaust depot setup and I am hoping that with a CAI, Jet 2, (possibly headers) I will be able to smoke him.

the jet product is a module...not a chip. theres a very notable difference between a module and a chip. check jet modules website page for an explanation.

also the jet module....the same things can be bought on ebay for less than 5$. all it does is trick to computer.


i wouldnt compare the vq35 engine to the charger. for starters the older ones came with 260hp. the mid years come with 280hp, and the newest ones came with 303 hp, right before they switched over to the vq37, the 3.7 engine which comes with 330hp.

in other words, outside of power to weight ratio...you will need more than a short ram intake and a module that tricks the computer into thinking the air is colder and possibly running rich. leaning out a car is usually where power comes into play up to a certain point that is...

[vipere]

I don't have any chip and I was flooring it and going at LEAST 125 on the freeway and I didn't hit my cars top speed. I stopped at 125 because my buddie in front of me slowed down (He must of picked up a cop with his valentine 1)

My friend infront of me has an Infinity g35 (A 3.5L) and its like he has a v8 compared to me for acceleration :( I know its a lighter car and he has a chip for his car and a CAI but his accelerates soooo much faster, it almost makes me cry :( The only mod my car has is an exhaust depot setup and I am hoping that with a CAI, Jet 2, (possibly headers) I will be able to smoke him.

Yeah I do remember passing 120 all the time before I installed the chip/module and was wondering if it really is hendering the performance....:knockout: