Mopar Performance 392 Crate Hemi

[JEFF@MPSC]

Mopar Preformance has released the 392 Hemi Crate Engines. These engines are to start shipping the 1st of December. This engine is available in SEFI or Carbureted.

Here are the specs:
525 horsepower and 510 lb.-ft. of torque SEFI.
Aluminum single plane high rise intake manifold with holley 870 cfm 4-bbl carburetor for carbureted 392 applications.
80 mm manual throttle body on fuel-injected engines.
Deep-skirted cast iron block with cross-bolted mains.
CNC-ported aluminum twin-plug cylinder heads.
Stainless steel 2.100" intake and 1.600" exhaust valves.
Ovate wire (beehive competition) valve springs.
Viton competition valve stem seals.
279/285 hydraulic roller camshaft with 0.584" intake and 0.552" exhaust lift.
Forged pistons (4.055" bore)
10.5:1 compression ratio.
4140 forged steel crankshaft -- 3.795" stroke
4130 forged- steel I-beam performance connecting rods -- 6.200" length
SFI-approved competition crankshaft damper.
"Plug-and-Play" wiring harnesses.
Premium tri-metal performance engine bearings.
Precision balanced rotating assembly.
Distributorless coil-on-plug (COP) ignition system .


P5153604 392 Crate Hemi Carbureted Mopar list $16,899.00 MPSC Price $15899.00 plus shipping.

P5153605 392 HEMI Crate Engine SEFI Mopar list $16,899.00 MPSC Price $15899.00 plus shipping.

Jeff

[1bad4dr]

Great news Jeff, Thanks.

Couple of questions.

What size injectors are they running?

Fuel Rails?

Will the Fuel Rails and injectors work on the 6.1?

Thanks Jeff.

[crhemi]

Can one be dropped right into a 300C?

[Ted@MPSC]

Can one be dropped right into a 300C?
Yes, the engine will fit, however we do not know how well the factory PCM will run this motor. The engine management system that comes with this engine is a universal style system used for street rods or muscle cars that originally did not have computers in them. This will be something that has to be tested with a bit to determine exactly just how well this would make for an engine swap in an LX.

[aarcuda]

Yeah, we'll also need a real throttle cable!

[Rev.Hammer]

for the Carbed version?
the FBW EFI system should be just fine..

[JEFF@MPSC]

After a long conversation with Mopar Performance today this is what we have learned:

1) The engine will bolt into a LX body and that it should use the factory accessories without any problem.

2) The engine management system is a "Stand Alone System". It will not work in conjunction with the vehicle systems. It is designed to be used by itself, not a piggy back or replacement system for LX vehicles.

3) The factory vehicle PCM may very well run the motor, but the fuel mappings, timings, and more will be inaccurate. Mopar does not have a calibration available to flash into your vehicles PCM to utilize the full potential of this fire breathing monster. Anyone that wants to put this into an LX will be "On their own" in trying to make the factory PCM run this engine properly.

As much as we regret posting this information, we felt it best to be up front and honest regarding the usability of this motor in a modern day vehicle. We feel sure that as time progresses someone will work out the bugs to make this a reality for the LX lineup. We would love to see this engine in an LX tearing up the strips laying shame to competitors.

[JEFF@MPSC]

We have been told that we have one 392 being shipped to us this week and more by the end of the month.
Jeff

[JEFF@MPSC]

Here are a few pics of the new 392!

http://www.moparsupercenter.com/bb/uploads/3BD_MVC-006S.JPG

http://www.moparsupercenter.com/bb/uploads/Z5E_MVC-007S.JPG


http://www.moparsupercenter.com/bb/uploads/449_MVC-011S.JPG

[JEFF@MPSC]

Well we now have a total of 5 in stock. Who is going to the 1st person to put one of these in a Charger?

Jeff

[aarcuda]

Well we now have a total of 5 in stock. Who is going to the 1st person to put on of these in a Charger?

Jeff
Do we have any answers on the computer integration for the Charger?

[lafrad]

Looks like all the mechanical and electrical connections are the same as a standard 6.1 or 5.7 (if you use your stock throttle body, not the one with the Crate kit).

Computer integration would be as simple as installing, hooking it up, and turning the key ;-)

edit:
Looks like it has a pretty aggressive camshaft... might need a B&G flash or aftermarket fuel adjuster to get it to idle properly.

[aarcuda]

Looks like all the mechanical and electrical connections are the same as a standard 6.1 or 5.7 (if you use your stock throttle body, not the one with the Crate kit).

Computer integration would be as simple as installing, hooking it up, and turning the key ;-)

edit:
Looks like it has a pretty aggressive camshaft... might need a B&G flash or aftermarket fuel adjuster to get it to idle properly.
See previous comments in this thread that Mopar Performance would not/could not confirm it would be plug and play is why I ask the question. That's big bucks to be a guinea pig. You should know:wink:

[Ted@MPSC]

Actually, we think with a slight camshaft change, one that is a little more computer friendly, we could get a good tune that will run this beast.

[hugh jass]

Leave it to the noob to wake up an old thread.

I was wondering if there has any new info regarding the computer to run the EFI 392 for use in the LX's?

Anybody know if Mopar or anyone else is working on a computer to run the motor and the accessories?

Thanks.

[wickedchargerrt]

Well since its a mechanical looking throttle body will this require replacement of the stock accel pedal assembly?

[skeletonizer]

It would appear that to make this motor work in an LX you would remove the TB that comes on the 392, replace it with the stock TB. Get a Predator and a good CMR tune.

The engine controller that comes with the crate motor would not be used.

All you need is money.

[ChargeRonDavinS]

cool but :knockout: expensive!! I don't know much about replacing motors, I'm sure it's a fair price, but to me I'd rather just buy a drag car used!

[zoomzoom1]

It would appear that to make this motor work in an LX you would remove the TB that comes on the 392, replace it with the stock TB. Get a Predator and a good CMR tune.

The engine controller that comes with the crate motor would not be used.

All you need is money.

Hey, how are ya doing, I have been drooling over this motor since it was introduced way back. I was wondering if maybe PPP or HHP might be able to do an install on this thing or maybe one of the other supporting vendors, come on, chime in guys?? Ya know like maybe a stock 6.1 TB with the 90MM input??

[Ted@MPSC]

Guys/Gals, be patient!
We should have some information about installing this monster with the monster camshaft it comes with in an LX in April. We have a car coming in to have this done, and we will be able to answer all your questions once it is completed.

[charger08srt]

cool but :knockout: expensive!! I don't know much about replacing motors, I'm sure it's a fair price, but to me I'd rather just buy a drag car used!

yeah it would be cheaper

[falconma]

Its past april now, any updates?

[black08]

Mopar Preformance has released the 392 Hemi Crate Engines. These engines are to start shipping the 1st of December. This engine is available in SEFI or Carbureted.

Here are the specs:
525 horsepower and 510 lb.-ft. of torque SEFI.
Aluminum single plane high rise intake manifold with holley 870 cfm 4-bbl carburetor for carbureted 392 applications.
80 mm manual throttle body on fuel-injected engines.
Deep-skirted cast iron block with cross-bolted mains.
CNC-ported aluminum twin-plug cylinder heads.
Stainless steel 2.100" intake and 1.600" exhaust valves.
Ovate wire (beehive competition) valve springs.
Viton competition valve stem seals.
279/285 hydraulic roller camshaft with 0.584" intake and 0.552" exhaust lift.
Forged pistons (4.055" bore)
10.5:1 compression ratio.
4140 forged steel crankshaft -- 3.795" stroke
4130 forged- steel I-beam performance connecting rods -- 6.200" length
SFI-approved competition crankshaft damper.
"Plug-and-Play" wiring harnesses.
Premium tri-metal performance engine bearings.
Precision balanced rotating assembly.
Distributorless coil-on-plug (COP) ignition system .


P5153604 392 Crate Hemi Carbureted Mopar list $16,899.00 MPSC Price $15899.00 plus shipping.

P5153605 392 HEMI Crate Engine SEFI Mopar list $16,899.00 MPSC Price $15899.00 plus shipping.

Jeff

You say that like everyone`s got $16000.00 grand to burn....

[black08]

Well we now have a total of 5 in stock. Who is going to the 1st person to put one of these in a Charger?

Jeff

I`ll be more than happy to drop that beast inn.....is it free! Look, i`m not knocking you, but for 7500 i can make my motor meaner than that.....this price is rediculous!

[R/T 4 Me]

would that I could....

[Ted@MPSC]

The project has not yet begun due to circumstances beyond our control. I feel sure that once our customer is ready to proceed we will have update posts rolling right along.

As for the price of this engine, yes it is up there. For $7500.00 you can do alot to a motor, but also add in the expense of the engine to that figure as well. These are not used engines that are being built but rather brand new components that have been tested for optimal results.

These engines were built and released for resto mod's or race cars. These are not intended for the LX platform vehicles.