Website Updated & Member Request

[ekool]

As you may have noticed, we have just recently completed an upgrade to the newest software available to us. It has added some new features so hopefully your stay here will be more enjoyable.

If you notice any problems or any features that are missing or broken, please post in this thread.

We also have a request from all members to please re-review the rules. This place has been slowly deteriorating. I am talking about disrespectful posts (to both members, and moderators/administrators), lots of thread crapping and just out and out unecessary behaviour.

Please try to treat everyone here as you would treat them in real life. Not as if you are on a forum on the internet and that you could care less what they think about you. Just use a little common sense, and display some common courtesy.

We will be enforcing our rules much more strict from now on, so consider this your warning!

Update: The signature system has also been modified. You may not link to external signature images. You have to upload the signature image in the User CP, and it must meet our size requirements. This will prevent users from having ginormous signature images which break the layout of the site, and make it impossible for modem users to enjoy the site.

[1bad4dr]

Thanks E.......... Dig the new changes. :) Except my sig pic is only the URL.

[ekool]

See if you can get it working by uploading it in the User CP.

http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/profile.php?do=editsignature

Thanks E.......... Dig the new changes. :) Except my sig pic is only the URL.

[NECharger]

The last post links/arrows seem to be broken.

[holeydonut]

Whoops, I didn't see this thread... sorry for reporting what NECharger just posted.

[1bad4dr]

See if you can get it working by uploading it in the User CP.

http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/profile.php?do=editsignature

I have been, but she no workie. :)

[AreTee]

Note: The maximum size of your custom image is 500 by 100 pixels or 39.1 KB (whichever is smaller).

Is this the rule? I dont see it anywhere on the forum..
Plus my username change was never accomplished.. :(

[Curz]

it works by uploading but the size looks jacked to me...have to mess with it i guess

[ekool]

It is a new rule.

I have never seen a request for a username change so I have no clue what you are talking about.

Is this the rule? I dont see it anywhere on the forum..
Plus my username change was never accomplished.. :(

[FlyByU]

Takes some getting used to and it does mess up our pretty pictures. Mine is stuck on one view.

[GLHS837]

That would be my fault, Artee, I was going to forward it and dropped the ball, apologies:)

[Curz]

That would be my fault, Artee, I was going to forward it and dropped the ball, apologies:)

off with his head :grin:

[1bad4dr]

No workie for me.... Am I doing something wrong? lol Probably...

[AreTee]

That would be my fault, Artee, I was going to forward it and dropped the ball, apologies:)


Uh, I'm not dissapointed.. :D Just kidding. Well, it was KCSRT8 by the way. Thanks a ton.

[FlyByU]

Hey 1bad4door, there is a box you have to tic to place your pic in the sig. Dont forget to remove the old code for your old pic.

[Curz]

No workie for me.... Am I doing something wrong? lol Probably...

upload from your C drive , should work

[1bad4dr]

upload from your C drive , should work

Nope........ They do not work... Says remote has been disabled. ARGH!

[ekool]

Download the image to your computer first, and then upload it from your computer.

Nope........ They do not work... Says remote has been disabled. ARGH!

[Curz]

Nope........ They do not work... Says remote has been disabled. ARGH!

Do you have a URL in the link when you are uploading from C? If so, thats your prob I bet. No URL

[Curz]

Haha, noobs. If anyone needs image resizing, please PM me, I'll help out.

I will !!

and pls dont change your name dude...you have already branded that name. We know you by it.

[1bad4dr]

Do you have a URL in the link when you are uploading from C? If so, thats your prob I bet. No URL

I get the same damn error when uploading from the Cdrive. Screw it.
I'll mess with it later.... lol I probably am using a too large pic file and not my 100x100 lol

[Curz]

I get the same damn error when uploading from the Cdrive. Screw it.
I'll mess with it later.... lol I probably am using a too large pic file and not my 100x100 lol

all that torque has messed with your head

[a14umbra]

As you may have noticed, we have just recently completed an upgrade to the newest software available to us. It has added some new features so hopefully your stay here will be more enjoyable.

If you notice any problems or any features that are missing or broken, please post in this thread.

We also have a request from all members to please re-review the rules. This place has been slowly deteriorating. I am talking about disrespectful posts (to both members, and moderators/administrators), lots of thread crapping and just out and out unecessary behaviour.

Please try to treat everyone here as you would treat them in real life. Not as if you are on a forum on the internet and that you could care less what they think about you. Just use a little common sense, and display some common courtesy.

We will be enforcing our rules much more strict from now on, so consider this your warning!

Update: The signature system has also been modified. You may not link to external signature images. You have to upload the signature image in the User CP, and it must meet our size requirements. This will prevent users from having ginormous signature images which break the layout of the site, and make it impossible for modem users to enjoy the site.


Shouldn't that be "couldn't care less"?
(Testing ekool's sense of humor)



Oh! And as usual, thanks for everything.

[holeydonut]

I will !!

and pls dont change your name dude...you have already branded that name. We know you by it.


weird, post # 340594 vanished after Curz replied to it? ???

[ekool]

The "last post" link has been fixed.

[AreTee]

You may want to edit your sig ekool. Doesn't look like you are accepting any PM's. I've PM'd a few in the past, and no replies.

[ekool]

What did you PM? I've replied to many PM's. I dont reply to all tho. Just depends on what the PM said.

[Tahde]

I cant get pic on sig either.

Oh, there it is. hehehe. Sorry. Thanks guys/gals.

[AreTee]

Haha, your sigs suck now fellas! :)

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ekool - I pm'd you and another staff member with a suggestion and also to not change my name. Uhmm, my name was changed though. Not a biggie...but no reply yet, not a biggie neither. So, ignore me.

[HEMEEE]

Haha, your sigs suck now fellas! :)

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ekool - I pm'd you and another staff member with a suggestion and also to not change my name. Uhmm, my name was changed though. Not a biggie...but no reply yet, not a biggie neither. So, ignore me.AreTee/ KCSRT8, we're not going to ignore you - send me a PM and I'll get you squared away.

[a14umbra]

AreTee/ KCSRT8, we're not going to ignore you - send me a PM and I'll get you squared away.

Everybody! Quick fill up Hemee's mailbox! << JUST KIDDING



Seriously, I hope he decides to return to Aretee. I kinda got used to that. ;)

I've been looking around and I really like the changes.

[HEMEEE]

Yeah, that's all I need... more PM's! :lol: I like the new stuff a lot too...

It would be awesome if people would post a little something about the cool good stuff they found, I have no idea every little thing that was incorporated.

- I just found the buddy list is reformatted. MEEE like!

[Tahde]

Yeah, that's all I need... more PM's! :lol: I like the new stuff a lot too...

It would be awesome if people would post a little something about the cool good stuff they found, I have no idea every little thing that was incorporated.

- I just found the buddy list is reformatted. MEEE like!

Wow, I havent noticed all those changes. I guess I should snoop around. lol. Only thing that I've seen different is posting. Wont let me do the "multiple" post thingy.

[AreTee]

Any plans for a chatroom. Maybe incorporate it into a footer of the forums? That would be REALLY nice! :)

[holeydonut]

AreTee is back! :)

[ekool]

We have plans to add a chatroom and maybee an arcade... but we want to get the rules enforced and a bit more self moderation and mutual respect between members going before we add a bunch more features.

[a14umbra]

Cool feature alert!!!!!

It warns you when youe PM box is 90% full!

[NECharger]

Being that modem users can turn off signatures, I think 100 pixels high is a little too hard to work with. If the width is limited to 500 then a height of 300 or 400 would be a lot more fitting for most digital camera pictures.

[ekool]

I have broadband but I do not enjoy overly large signatures. I think 500x100 pixels is more then enough.

[a14umbra]

Being that modem users can turn off signatures, I think 100 pixels high is a little too hard to work with. If the width is limited to 500 then a height of 300 or 400 would be a lot more fitting for most digital camera pictures.

My first thought was, "You gotta put a limit somewhere, what's the diff?" But, if you keep the file size limit in place, I think your suggestion is good. A little more real estate won't hurt if the filesize is kept down.

[AreTee]

Great. Now, I know that i have nothing to do with rules, but I can suggest stuff though. I totally have a BIG problem with SIGNATURES. This whole "mini-sig" stuff is already killing me. I am on dial-up, and have hardly had ANY problems with anybody's signatures. If and when I do, I switch to archive mod, which is the whole point of it. But, again, who the hell am I to tell you whats right and whats wrong, right? ;)

[ekool]

Well, your talking about another very real limit. Users who run 800x600 or less screen resolutions.. of which, over 15% of our users do.

Again guys, we put these rules in place not to piss people off, but to make browsing the site as appealing as possible to as large a userbase as possible.

I realize some of us out there who run high resolutions think 500 pixels wide by 100 pixels tall is small (I run 1920x1200 myself) -- but there are alot of users out there who previously had to scroll a whole screen just because of someones sig image.

My first thought was, "You gotta put a limit somewhere, what's the diff?" But, if you keep the file size limit in place, I think your suggestion is good. A little more real estate won't hurt if the filesize is kept down.

[Tahde]

Any plans for a chatroom. Maybe incorporate it into a footer of the forums? That would be REALLY nice! :)



Good to see ya back Aretee. That would be cool to have a chatroom. But also I understand why we dont have one yet as well. Hope we can get better respect in hear to have a chatroom.

[NECharger]

I have broadband but I do not enjoy overly large signatures. I think 500x100 pixels is more then enough.

I agree with not enjoying overly large sigs. But when you take an image that is say 1200 pixels x 1600 pixels and resize it you end up with 100 x 133 which is too small. 1 x 5 is an awkward ratio to work with is my point.

[a14umbra]

Well, your talking about another very real limit. Users who run 800x600 or less screen resolutions.. of which, over 15% of our users do.

Again guys, we put these rules in place not to piss people off, but to make browsing the site as appealing as possible to as large a userbase as possible.

I realize some of us out there who run high resolutions think 500 pixels wide by 100 pixels tall is small (I run 1920x1200 myself) -- but there are alot of users out there who previously had to scroll a whole screen just because of someones sig image.

As a web developer, I completely understand that. Heck, as a web surfer I get it. I guess we're just saying that the new size is kind of a shock to the system. How about 200 pixels high? :nervous s

[AreTee]

As a web developer, I completely understand that. Heck, as a web surfer I get it. I guess we're just saying that the new size is kind of a shock to the system. How about 200 pixels high? :nervous s

Yup, 600X200 would be user friendly as well. Just keep the KB limit the same, which would mean hardly ANY animations and only gifs litterly ;) good point a14!

[NECharger]

It's hard to tell TN looks like Shrek anymore at 100 high.

http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/image.php?u=1532&type=sigpic&dateline=1157402990

[rodneyiii]

Thanks for the upgrade and for tightening up on the posting rules. I have seen a lot of useless mess in some of these threads. Some threads fade so far away from the original post that it gets crazy. It would also be great to control the profanity usage.

[ekool]

I would be willing to go 400x200 or leave it as is at 500x100 -- if someone wants to start a poll, we can change it.

[HEMEEE]

If we go larger on the sig images, we'll need to crack down more on the amount of text included... so you guys/gals need to factor that in as well.
Tall, spaced out lists of mods are just as annoying as large sig pics - put them together and it's double trouble. Some we have seen take up as much screen space as several posts combined.

The separate thread dedicated to your car, with a list of all your mods is a great way to minimize the sig and maximize the benefit, you can make the post in your thread as long as you want it to be. That's what I did at 300cforums (http://www.300cforums.com/forums/members/hemeee.html) - I just update my mods list as needed.... Food for thought :)

[AB Charger]

This is already my favourite Charger site, and it seems you are determined to keep it that way. Thank you.

[Runaround]

Just want to give a shout out to all the mods on the site. Thank you for all the work getting the new features up. I personally love the image size requirement on the sig. After all, it's just a signature - not a picture post of your car. Having large signatures takes away from the information sharing on the site and breaks up the reading. btw - i run my screens at 1280x768 on one and the other is 1600x1200.

[ekool]

We will probably also add the "Garage" to this site, where you can list mods and have pics of your car (and of course, we already have the gallery) -- but that would cut down on the info you needed in your sig as you could link to your garage, as Hemeee suggested.

[Tahde]

We will probably also add the "Garage" to this site, where you can list mods and have pics of your car (and of course, we already have the gallery) -- but that would cut down on the info you needed in your sig as you could link to your garage, as Hemeee suggested.

That would be cool. Thanks Ekool!

[epoch]

We will probably also add the "Garage" to this site, where you can list mods and have pics of your car (and of course, we already have the gallery) -- but that would cut down on the info you needed in your sig as you could link to your garage, as Hemeee suggested.

I think this is a good compromise.

Now I just have to make a new sig :cry:

[ekool]

The multiquote and quickreply buttons should now function properly. They were broken before.

[kustomkarl]

So far, I am up on the new changes ... This is the best forum around, keep up the good work!

[kustomkarl]

Any chance to put the same 8 links from the top on a border at the bottom also, rather than going to the top everytime?

[ekool]

Any chance to put the same 8 links from the top on a border at the bottom also, rather than going to the top everytime?
I'll see what I can do.

[kustomkarl]

thanks...my mouse finger is loven it!

[GO-218]

It would be nice to be able to see the tabs at the bottom of the page for gallery/forums/topics/ etc as at the top......JMO

[HEMEEE]

Thanks for the upgrade and for tightening up on the posting rules. I have seen a lot of useless mess in some of these threads. Some threads fade so far away from the original post that it gets crazy. It would also be great to control the profanity usage. Your comments kinda got buried with all the activity and I didn't want anyone to feel they were ignored or overlooked.

We agree... the hijacking and thread crapping had gotten completely out of control and cannot continue, especially in legitimate Charger-topic threads. I also want to add, up front, that we will adopt a zero-tolerance stand against this in the "New Member" forum. As our V6 Moderator, spoonerock, stated so well before even HIS thread was hijacked and direspectfully crapped on, THINK before you click submit!

As for profanity, Smilies are every bit as effective in expressing emotion in posts, that's what they're there for, and they are a lot less shocking or offensive. Some language filters were recently put in place, but if members see offensive words that are getting through (without symbol substitutes), please send me a PM and we'll review whether that term needs to be filtered. The use of profanity is now addressed in the rules and users that consistently bypass the filters by substituting with symbols are essentially "bypassing" the rules. A caution, or an infraction, may result if staff finds it excessive and/or malicious. We would appreciate not being put in that position.

And before it starts again, we are over the criticism, and verbal attacks, on members that have expressed their views on these issues, save your buzz words like "PC", or catchphrases like "it's just words on a screen - get over it - toughen up" etc. This is a community and like any community we must ALL compomise. It's not about who's right and who's wrong, or who wins and who loses; it's about meeting in the middle, which makes everyone a winner, makes the site more desireable for a broader spectrum of users, and encourages new members to join and contribute to the ultimate mission of the site in the first place, which is to be the best Charger resource on the internet. Call me a hopeless optimist, but wouldn't it be great if it was also the friendliest, most fun, and one we can ALL be proud of?

We will hold steadfast to the mission, members that are not in agreement with our goal are encouraged to find a board that better suits their needs rather than create disruptions here...

Our hope is that everyone will choose to stay, enjoy and contribute to the mission!

[falchulk]

Well, I hope you mods are successful! Unfortunately. I have seen these "crack downs" in a lot of other auto forums. Actually a few that ekool runs. Good people end up getting banned or leaving. The community declines rapidly. I wish you luck because I like this site and dont want to see that happen here.

[ekool]

Well, I hope you mods are successful! Unfortunately. I have seen these "crack downs" in a lot of other auto forums. Actually a few that ekool runs. Good people end up getting banned or leaving. The community declines rapidly. I wish you luck because I like this site and dont want to see that happen here.
If good people end up getting banned, it is because of their own actions. We dont force anyone to violate the rules, they do so willingly.

Hopefully that doesnt happen here.

[a14umbra]

Well, I hope you mods are successful! Unfortunately. I have seen these "crack downs" in a lot of other auto forums. Actually a few that ekool runs. Good people end up getting banned or leaving. The community declines rapidly. I wish you luck because I like this site and dont want to see that happen here.

I don't see that happening here. I don't know what it is, but there's something special about this forum. It such a family.

[ekool]

Navigation bar has been added to the end of a thread page.

[a14umbra]

Navigation bar has been added to the end of a thread page.

You remembered!:love:

[ekool]

You remembered!:love:
Sometimes I get lucky...

[RTracer]

my sig is gone, and it wasnt even big!!!:dead:

[HEMEEE]

my sig is gone, and it wasnt even big!!!:dead:The system no longer accepts photos generated from outside your own computer... using that method will only generate a URL.

[HKLEVI]

Small Q here. How come to see a post you just made you have to go to the Active topics button instead of the New Posts like b4?

Thought I was loosing my mind for a bit.

[Curz]

Small Q here. How come to see a post you just made you have to go to the Active topics button instead of the New Posts like b4?

Thought I was loosing my mind for a bit.

xcellent question - thought i was on crack as well

[Trevor]

Navigation bar has been added to the end of a thread page.

Nice change (and user request) - now I don't have to scroll up from the end of each page to click for the newest "New Posts".

[elcobra44]

Navigation bar has been added to the end of a thread page.
Woo-hoo!! Thanks..

[ekool]

There might be a small delay between when your post shows up in "New Posts" due to the way the database keeps track of sessions and posts you've viewed, etc.

Active Topics doesnt use the same method as new posts. So, you can do that, or you can use "Subscribed Threads" under the quick links and get the same behaviour.

[RandysWay]

Ekool,

Could you please increase the maximum signature height? This is a car enthusiasts forum and 100px heigh signatures just doesn't work out too well for signatures with cars as their main focus, as cars have a higher height than anything else. Is there any chance you could increase it to 500x150 or 500x200?

Examples:

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/4059/100pxni4.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2694/150pxam5.jpg

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7562/200pxml5.jpg

Thank you,
Randy

[R/TommyB]

good point Randy.
I am sad. I literally just finished my first sig when they implemented the new rules. I understand and agree with the logic, having formerly been a long-time dial-up user, but now my sig is useless. You need a magnifying glass to see what it is.

[ekool]

I've increased the signature size from 100 to 150 as far as height and raised the kb from 40 to 45. Thats about as far as I can go guys.

[HKLEVI]

I've increased the signature size from 100 to 150 as far as height and raised the kb from 40 to 45. Thats about as far as I can go guys.

Hey, that's better than nothing, thanks!

[Charger Benz]

Update: The signature system has also been modified. You may not link to external signature images. You have to upload the signature image in the User CP, and it must meet our size requirements. This will prevent users from having ginormous signature images which break the layout of the site, and make it impossible for modem users to enjoy the site.

No offense, but some of these rules are silly and non productive to the forum.
First, why should you care what kind of photos we post? You are punishing me for having a fast connection? Think about it, all Modem users have the option to turn off pics when they visit (we can turn pics on and off in the control panel). So do that rather than stop me from posting picks.

Second, having us upload pics on to your server...that is what slows down forums. I should know, I have a forum with almost 50,000 registered members. You are going to suffer badly and so will the rest of us when this forum gets big because of uploaded stuff on the server. Let us use remote URL.... you are only going to kill the forum by allowing us to upload pics on to the server. That is by far the worse way to allow avtars and pics. Wait until the forum keeps crashing...than you'll understand. Don't bog the system down with uploaded stuff to the server. Remote URLs won't bog the server down and any one with a slow connection can just turn off pics in the control panel.

And before you stomp on us for the forum Deteriorating.... you should be thankful and not complaining. This forum is FAR from deteriorating.

[Charger Benz]

Ekool,

Could you please increase the maximum signature height? This is a car enthusiasts forum and 100px heigh signatures just doesn't work out too well for signatures with cars as their main focus, as cars have a higher height than anything else. Is there any chance you could increase it to 500x150 or 500x200?

Examples:

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/4059/100pxni4.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2694/150pxam5.jpg

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/7562/200pxml5.jpg

Thank you,
Randy


We can all turn off pics in our control panel. I don't understand why they want us to upload pics and not use Remote URLs. The best way to kill a forum for speed is to allow Pic Uploads. We should be on the URL system, not the upload system. Well, when this forum gets big.... they will learn the hard way.

[Charger Benz]

I have broadband but I do not enjoy overly large signatures. I think 500x100 pixels is more then enough.

100 pixels? C'mon man...be fair at least. 100 pixels is so small. Just turn off the Sig files. Allow us the simple pleasure of pictures. It will only help the forum grow. but hey, if you concern is Modem peeps...then you are taking care of a dying breed over the future. Also, you are slowing down forum by making people upload pics. If the pics are going up on the same server hosting this Forum...then you are killing us and the speed of this forum will continute to decline as pics go up and are utilized in threads.

[ekool]

No offense, but some of these rules are silly and non productive to the forum.
First, why should you care what kind of photos we post? You are punishing me for having a fast connection? Think about it, all Modem users have the option to turn off pics when they visit (we can turn pics on and off in the control panel). So do that rather than stop me from posting picks.


Sorry, but I disagree with you. A user should be able to enjoy signatures even if they are on a modem. And, its not just size thats the issue... I'm on a fast connection and I hate looking at large signature images. So, from what I can tell you seem to think your "need" or "right" to upload whatever signature pic you want should override my ability to enjoy the forum.

I dont think so.


Second, having us upload pics on to your server...that is what slows down forums. I should know, I have a forum with almost 50,000 registered members. You are going to suffer badly and so will the rest of us when this forum gets big because of uploaded stuff on the server. Let us use remote URL.... you are only going to kill the forum by allowing us to upload pics on to the server. That is by far the worse way to allow avtars and pics. Wait until the forum keeps crashing...than you'll understand. Don't bog the system down with uploaded stuff to the server. Remote URLs won't bog the server down and any one with a slow connection can just turn off pics in the control panel.

I also have a forum with almost 50,000 registered members. Its called SRTforums.com (BTW, which forum do you run that has 50,000 members) -- so I believe I know a thing or two about scalability. There is no way for us to limit signature size unless we keep the file local, so thats what we have to do.

I'm sorry, but some BAD APPLES spoiled it for the WHOLE BUNCH because they would NOT limit their signature sizes to something REASONABLE so we had to implement this.

And before you stomp on us for the forum Deteriorating.... you should be thankful and not complaining. This forum is FAR from deteriorating.

The forum had taken a nasty turn for the worse lately. I wasnt the only one who saw it, other users in here posted about it as well. So, no, I wont be "thankful and not complaining" -- I will do what is best for this site and nip some junk in the bud before it gets out of control.

[falchulk]

Sorry, but I disagree with you. A user should be able to enjoy signatures even if they are on a modem. And, its not just size thats the issue... I'm on a fast connection and I hate looking at large signature images. So, from what I can tell you seem to think your "need" or "right" to upload whatever signature pic you want should override my ability to enjoy the forum.

I dont think so.



I also have a forum with almost 50,000 registered members. Its called SRTforums.com (BTW, which forum do you run that has 50,000 members) -- so I believe I know a thing or two about scalability. There is no way for us to limit signature size unless we keep the file local, so thats what we have to do.

I'm sorry, but some BAD APPLES spoiled it for the WHOLE BUNCH because they would NOT limit their signature sizes to something REASONABLE so we had to implement this.


The forum had taken a nasty turn for the worse lately. I wasnt the only one who saw it, other users in here posted about it as well. So, no, I wont be "thankful and not complaining" -- I will do what is best for this site and nip some junk in the bud before it gets out of control.


The "turn for the worse" that spoon got upset about was a kid/troll. Most of the negative stuff around here is caused kids/trolls, not the regulars.

[ekool]

Thats not the only thing I'm talking about. There is alot of stuff happening behind the scenes that some users dont know about. Thus the reason for the new rules, etc.

[1bad4dr]

Unfortunetly Ekool will never be able to please ALL members, but he has done the right thing in putting his foot down to ensure that the majority is happy....

I applaude Ekool for finally setting the rules in concrete....

I must admit that my sig picture was a little large, but not like some I have seen........

I enjoy the reading material, the fun members and the ideas that they share with all of us.......

I belong to another forum (locally) that has even tighter rules than this forum. It is for the BEST of all of us that they are in place.... Keeps things fun and enjoyable for ALL....

Thanks Ekool and staff for all that you have done here.

Ron

[HEMEEE]

The "turn for the worse" that spoon got upset about was a kid/troll. Most of the negative stuff around here is caused kids/trolls, not the regulars.It was not "kids/trolls" that were hijacking and thread-crapping serious threads that are not in off-topic, making personal attacks, and treating members and staff disrespectfully... it was more often senior well-known and well-thought of members. It was becoming a full-time job trying to handle individual situations via PM. The most effective way to get things back on track was to set site policies so everyone is clear about the expectations, display them prominently, and hope that everyone will understand that we are doing what is best for the site and its membership as a whole.

Please don't misunderstand, these changes are not the result of any single situation, but rather a cumulative effect of many over a period of time. All of these changes were going to take place with the next software upgrade anyway and the situation with spoon was just one of several recent catalysts that made us expedite the changes ahead of schedule.

[ekool]

As always, Linda can say things much more eloquently and thoroughly then I ever can :)

[RandysWay]

I've increased the signature size from 100 to 150 as far as height and raised the kb from 40 to 45. Thats about as far as I can go guys.

Thanks Ekool! I as well as the entire forum really appreciate that. :grin: I know you can't please everybody but this helps a lot. :) Now that they're bigger, I have to cancel my order for my 37" LCD Monitor. :grin:

[Fuel 100]

Thanks Ekool! I as well as the entire forum really appreciate that. :grin: I know you can't please everybody but this helps a lot. :) Now that they're bigger, I have to cancel my order for my 37" LCD Monitor. :grin:

I was going to hook mine up to my 42" Plasma. I guess I don't need to now.

[falchulk]

It was not "kids/trolls" that were hijacking and thread-crapping serious threads that are not in off-topic, making personal attacks, and treating members and staff disrespectfully... it was more often senior well-known and well-thought of members. It was becoming a full-time job trying to handle individual situations via PM. The most effective way to get things back on track was to set site policies so everyone is clear about the expectations, display them prominently, and hope that everyone will understand that we are doing what is best for the site and its membership as a whole.

Please don't misunderstand, these changes are not the result of any single situation, but rather a cumulative effect of many over a period of time. All of these changes were going to take place with the next software upgrade anyway and the situation with spoon was just one of several recent catalysts that made us expedite the changes ahead of schedule.


Is spoon gone for good?

[Charger Benz]

Yup, 600X200 would be user friendly as well. Just keep the KB limit the same, which would mean hardly ANY animations and only gifs litterly ;) good point a14!


I don't really understand all the complaints and size restrictions. Grant it, its not my board to run and I totally respect the owners and those who maintain this forum...so I am just offering my opinions... but I have a Sport Forum (not a car forum in any way) close to 50,000 members...at any given time there are 1000 active members using it. I have no restrictions on Sig files, pics.... I certainly do not allow Avtar and Pic uploads on my server (just remote URLS)...that is what will kill it for everyone...even if we all have Broadband. I have yet to hear complaints from modem users and anyone for that matter that there are too many pics and huge sig files. Personally, I know really well what makes a successful forum. Restricting people's pics, in my honest opinion won't help.

We should really be able to post remote URL's for pics and Avtars. The size restriction shouldn't be a problem really (Avtars should have some size restriction...but not Sig files.). Especially since you guys have it set up that a sig file only shows up once in a thread.... I don't do that at my forum either. Making too many restrictions turns people off.

But seriously...I am just offering my opinions.

[ekool]

I don't really understand all the complaints and size restrictions. Grant it, its not my board to run and I totally respect the owners and those who maintain this forum...so I am just offering my opinions... but I have a Sport Forum (not a car forum in any way) close to 50,000 members...at any given time there are 1000 active members using it. I have no restrictions on Sig files, pics.... I certainly do not allow Avtar and Pic uploads on my server (just remote URLS)...that is what will kill it for everyone...even if we all have Broadband. I have yet to hear complaints from modem users and anyone for that matter that there are too many pics and huge sig files. Personally, I know really well what makes a successful forum. Restricting people's pics, in my honest opinion won't help.

We should really be able to post remote URL's for pics and Avtars. The size restriction shouldn't be a problem really (Avtars should have some size restriction...but not Sig files.). Especially since you guys have it set up that a sig file only shows up once in a thread.... I don't do that at my forum either. Making too many restrictions turns people off.

But seriously...I am just offering my opinions.
You have your opinion on what makes a successful forum and I have mine. You have made your opinion very well known, as this is the 4th message with the same point of view.

I could also say "Personally, I know really well what makes a successful forum." as I run a NUMBER of forums, and our userbase totals 97,000 registered users...

I respect your opinion, but I disagree with it. But seriously... Lets move on.

[Charger Benz]

I also have a forum with almost 50,000 registered members. Its called SRTforums.com (BTW, which forum do you run that has 50,000 members)

Mine is called the DogPound. You can find it at http://forums.doghouseboxing.com/

I also own the website that is part of that Forum... and am the webmaster for ESPN's MaxBoxing.com

[ekool]

Mine is called the DogPound. You can find it at http://forums.doghouseboxing.com/

I also own the website that is part of that Forum... and am the webmaster for ESPN's MaxBoxing.com
Ahh no wonder there are so many registered users. You have to register to even view a thread...

Oh well, again.... I'll go my way, you go your way and we will just agree to disagree.

[Charger Benz]

Ahh no wonder there are so many registered users. You have to register to even view a thread...

Oh well, again.... I'll go my way, you go your way and we will just agree to disagree.


No you don't. But I wasn't posting it to get an insult from you. The forum is not locked. If it is for you, maybe you have a conflicting IP. Please try again. And lets be Gentlemen about it. My Forum is not locked.

Nonetheless we are ranked about 7000 on Alexa.com. What's yours?

[ekool]

No you don't. But I wasn't posting it to get an insult from you. The forum is not locked. If it is for you, maybe you have a conflicting IP. Please try again. And lets be Gentlemen about it. My Forum is not locked.

Nonetheless we are ranked about 7000 on Alexa.com. What's yours?
I think my largest site is 46,000 on Alexa.. but again, I run about 16 sites and you "own" 1. But again, I keep trying to drop this and you keep resurrecting it. If you want to be a genteleman, let it die.

I've said everything I need to say about the sigs... the rest is just e-Penis posturing.

[Charger Benz]

I think my largest site is 46,000 on Alexa.. but again, I run about 16 sites and you "own" 1. But again, I keep trying to drop this and you keep resurrecting it. If you want to be a genteleman, let it die.

I've said everything I need to say about the sigs... the rest is just e-Penis posturing.

Actually you asked what forum I ran. I was never flexing with you, and I maintain tons of sites as well, but have never insulted you over it. Yes that was rather mature of you saying to me:, "I run about 16 sites and you "own" 1". Then you talk about E-Penis. I was just offering my opinions....I never insulted you and I never kept asking you to change the subject.

I actually realize you are a person on the other end. So there is just no way I would keep on insulting you as you are towards me.

I think you run a good site and do a good job. I just wanted to offer you my opinion without reading insult after insult. If you are not man enough for that.... then I apologize, and will search on your great forum someone who's conversation will suit me better.

[HEMEEE]

Okay, you got to have the last word :rolleyes: :silenced:
Now back on topic...


(To borrow a14umbra's format)

**Another cool new feature alert:
Now we can see who the recipients are on a PM that was sent to more than one member, and we can also BCC (blind carbon copy) recipients as well! :)

[1bad4dr]

Okay, you got to have the last word :rolleyes: :silenced:
Now back on topic...


(To borrow a14umbra's format)

**Another cool new feature alert:
Now we can see who the recipients are on a PM that was sent to more than one member, and we can also BCC (blind carbon copy) recipients as well! :)

I was thinking the same thing. lol

[AreTee]

thanks for the sig size updates ekool.

[RobAGD]

Okay, you got to have the last word :rolleyes: :silenced:
Now back on topic...


(To borrow a14umbra's format)

**Another cool new feature alert:
Now we can see who the recipients are on a PM that was sent to more than one member, and we can also BCC (blind carbon copy) recipients as well! :)

Humm isnt the point to a BCC so the reciver dosent see who else got a copy ?

I am all for the sig limit, its was getting way out of hand. The forum I ran we didnt allow avatar but we allowed sig images, So people put an avatar in thier sigs, then it was gun pictures then it was a team picture and it just got to the point that the sig were 4 o 5 times more room than anything actually discussed in the thread.

Also turning off sigs after 1 post was a good call as well. IMHO

Judos eKool and the gang. I hope the Charger forums HaterAde starts to go away, it was getting tedious just to look at new threads.

-Robert

ps- any change of getting NON HTML Tables for sigs ?

-Robert

[a14umbra]

Humm isnt the point to a BCC so the reciver dosent see who else got a copy ?

I am all for the sig limit, its was getting way out of hand. The forum I ran we didnt allow avatar but we allowed sig images, So people put an avatar in thier sigs, then it was gun pictures then it was a team picture and it just got to the point that the sig were 4 o 5 times more room than anything actually discussed in the thread.

Also turning off sigs after 1 post was a good call as well. IMHO

Judos eKool and the gang. I hope the Charger forums HaterAde starts to go away, it was getting tedious just to look at new threads.

-Robert

ps- any change of getting NON HTML Tables for sigs ?

-Robert


heh heh...

[RobAGD]

f'ing typos

Linda re read your post, I think I may have miss read it to say that you could also see who recived BCC's of a PM, vs we can now send BCC's

Woopsie

:D

-Robert

[ekool]

Humm isnt the point to a BCC so the reciver dosent see who else got a copy ?

I am all for the sig limit, its was getting way out of hand. The forum I ran we didnt allow avatar but we allowed sig images, So people put an avatar in thier sigs, then it was gun pictures then it was a team picture and it just got to the point that the sig were 4 o 5 times more room than anything actually discussed in the thread.

Also turning off sigs after 1 post was a good call as well. IMHO

Judos eKool and the gang. I hope the Charger forums HaterAde starts to go away, it was getting tedious just to look at new threads.

-Robert

ps- any change of getting NON HTML Tables for sigs ?

-Robert
The forum doesnt support Non HTML tables, unfortunately. And enabling HTMl opens everyone up to a ton of potential security holes.

[R/TommyB]

I've increased the signature size from 100 to 150 as far as height and raised the kb from 40 to 45. Thats about as far as I can go guys.

Hey, thanks for that! I do appreciate you the fact that you listened and responded. This is your site to do as you see fit, and it takes work to maintain. The fact that you still listened to a request and granted it demonstrates how much you want to continue to share it with the community.

I will take advantage of the new dimensions to the best of my (limited) ability.

[ekool]

We've been working on fixing some of the images around here as well... some of them didnt match quite so well so we are working on that. I think we've got a good set going right now tho.

[GO-218]

Still having issues with the sig pic.?.?

[RobAGD]

eKool think you could add a smily to the collection ?

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/images/smilies/Scottwax1.gif

Thanks

-Robert

[ekool]

eKool think you could add a smily to the collection ?

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/images/smilies/Scottwax1.gif

Thanks

-Robert
Added..

:wax:

[ChargerChick]

I just noticed that when hitting add reply, it adds a quote instead of a blank box.

Also, it's hard to read the online/offline button. Can you make the colors brighter or more distinct?

Thanks for the great job on the forums. :)

[ekool]

I just noticed that when hitting add reply, it adds a quote instead of a blank box.

Also, it's hard to read the online/offline button. Can you make the colors brighter or more distinct?

Thanks for the great job on the forums. :)
If you have the multiquote button clicked on a previous post in this thread, it will show up when you click add reply.

The online/offline buttons seem pretty good to me. Online is green and Offline is red?

[ChargerChick]

If you have the multiquote button clicked on a previous post in this thread, it will show up when you click add reply.

The online/offline buttons seem pretty good to me. Online is green and Offline is red?

Ah! So that's what the multiquote does! I couldn't figure it out. Duh. :)

And yes, online shows green and offline is red...I just wondered if they could be made any brighter.

(maybe I just need to wear some glasses) :)

[Tahde]

Ah! So that's what the multiquote does! I couldn't figure it out. Duh. :)

And yes, online shows green and offline is red...I just wondered if they could be made any brighter.

Its really low on my end too. Wonder if its my pc

[RobAGD]

eKool - make make the green color a bit more neon or a tad darker ?

Maybe make the text a tad bigger so there is more space for the color ?

just noticed the Quote/Multi/Quick buttons

-R

[ekool]

eKool - make make the green color a bit more neon or a tad darker ?

Maybe make the text a tad bigger so there is more space for the color ?

just noticed the Quote/Multi/Quick buttons

-R
The font size is the same as all the other buttons? The edit/quote/quick, etc..? If it was larger, it would look out of place?

[TorRedCharger06]

The new post icons aren't resetting. So if you visit the site at lets say 6:30 pm and you comeback laster at 9:30 posts aren't marked as read they are still highlighted as new. Even posts from days weeks/ago. The icon used to change from highlighted/colored to just plain/shadowed.

[Charger Benz]

Ekool, thanks for the Sig Pic size upgrade. That's an awesome compromise. Now I just need to find a good pic :lol: This place is the best resource on earth for my car. Much respect!!!

[ekool]

The new post icons aren't resetting. So if you visit the site at lets say 6:30 pm and you comeback laster at 9:30 posts aren't marked as read they are still highlighted as new. Even posts from days weeks/ago. The icon used to change from highlighted/colored to just plain/shadowed.

I'll have to look into this.

Ekool, thanks for the Sig Pic size upgrade. That's an awesome compromise. Now I just need to find a good pic :lol: This place is the best resource on earth for my car. Much respect!!!

No worries, thanks.

[mnunes]

A couple usability changes I've noticed since the upgrade:

1 - the little "down arrow" icon next to the thread title that takes you to the first unread post is harder to click now due to it being quite a bit smaller.

2 - clicking "New Posts" no longer shows all posts since your last visit but instead shows only unread posts since your last visit. Sometimes this is a problem if you want to research an issue then go back later to post your reply but nobody else has posted to that thread since you viewed it. Now you have to go track down that thread or do a search for it.

[4DEATER]

clicking "New Posts" no longer shows all posts since your last visit but instead shows only unread posts since your last visit. Sometimes this is a problem if you want to research an issue then go back later to post your reply but nobody else has posted to that thread since you viewed it. Now you have to go track down that thread or do a search for it.Yes after you post a reply to a thread it no longer shows up under new posts. It does show up under active topics, however you must go back and forth between active and new to look at the days posts and keep up with a thread you are on.

[elcobra44]

I liked being about to see the threads I posted in under New Posts..

[4DEATER]

I liked being about to see the threads I posted in under New Posts..Much nicer that way. I agree.

[chargershed]

is anyone else seeing what seems to be server probs on the site? when I click on my favorites link the page starts to load i see the header, then it cuts me off to a site not found page... i end up clicking on that link 3 or 4 times to get the site up... also i've noticed that page not available icons pop up on some of the vendor links on the page... those sometimes go away when i refresh, but not always...

[elcobra44]

I see the iTrader added.. Nice!

Just so ya know, I keep getting errors after I post a quick reply today. My message will post, but it doesn't show it unless I refresh.

[Crazy_luck]

I see the iTrader added.. Nice!

Just so ya know, I keep getting errors after I post a quick reply today. My message will post, but it doesn't show it unless I refresh.


Same here, but it only happens every couple of posts...

[elcobra44]

I'm 3/3..

http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=10757&stc=1&d=1158620254

[TorRedCharger06]

I get it too and the issue with new posts is still there. No matter when i visit this site every forum is showing new posts even when there haven't been any for weeks.

[elcobra44]

No matter when i visit this site every forum is showing new posts even when there haven't been any for weeks.

"The threads below have not been updated since your last visit but still contain unread posts."

They don't just dissapear anymore, that's all.

[HEMEEE]

I just tested and got the error with "quick reply" as well, but there is no issue with the "add reply" button which is below the last post and essentially the same thing... post w/o quote.

As for the "New Posts" issue... elcobra44 is correct, these threads remain "new" until you open them, or until you click the "Mark Forums Read" button in "Quick Links". You don't see your own new post there because it is not "new" to you... You opened the thread to post there.

"Active Topics" works differently in that it consists of the 50 threads most recently posted in and you WILL find your post there... at least until the thread rolls down the list and is no longer in the top 50.

I hope that helps ;)

[TorRedCharger06]

Maybe i'm not explaining myself right. Okay in a forum lets say Exterior mods. All threads that had a post in it since my last visit had a distinctive icon next to it on the left. Now every thread has the same icon no matter what time it was posted, so the only way to see which thread has new posts is to check the time stamps.

[HEMEEE]

Maybe i'm not explaining myself right. Okay in a forum lets say Exterior mods. All threads that had a post in it since my last visit had a distinctive icon next to it on the left. Now every thread has the same icon no matter what time it was posted, so the only way to see which thread has new posts is to check the time stamps.Hmmm... as far as I know, there has been no change to those icons, but I use the "New Posts" and "Active Topics" links on the Nav bar almost exclusively, so since what you describe is not the way I typically navigate the forums I may be wrong about that. ekool and JayC will be better prepared to answer that specific question and you may want to PM them if they don't see your post soon.

[Crazy_luck]

I see the iTrader added.. Nice!

Just so ya know, I keep getting errors after I post a quick reply today. My message will post, but it doesn't show it unless I refresh.


It also happens when you edit your post - your post just dissapears until you hit refresh...

[ekool]

I believe the quick reply function should be fixed now.

[Trevor]

I believe the quick reply function should be fixed now.

it's working better for me - thanks admins!

[elcobra44]

Thanks! :wave:

Also, I don't think the "Quick Links" on the bottom of the page is working properly..

[ekool]

Thanks! :wave:

Also, I don't think the "Quick Links" on the bottom of the page is working properly..
It works for me?

[HEMEEE]

It works for me?I also found that all the links on the bottom Nav bar work EXCEPT 'Quick Links'...

Edit: It seems to refresh the page then the 'button' changes to "Open Buddy List" and the "search" button becomes "Mark Forums Read" ... if that helps??
These changes take place on both the upper and lower Nav bars...

[4DEATER]

Why do some threads automatically subscribe me even though I don't have it set that way in the OPTIONS tab? I have it set to do not subscribe but sometimes I am subscribed. :confused:

[maarten]

nice!! i'm new sow i juist look erownd