My little sound system

[BlackCharger06]

Here's a few pics of my audio system. I wish I took more pics at the time but oh well here's what I got. I kept the Factory head unit, used a clean sweep because I couldn't wait for pac audio and wanted to keep the stock look. For fronts I went with mb quart qsd 216's, and for the rears I went with Boston acoustic SL95's.
In the trunk I had the 10w7 sub in the side pocket in fiberglass, and the 500/1 sub amp and the 450/1 4 channel in the fake floor. I put flexi on top of the amp rack then mdf on top of that. I wanted to have the pannels slide out but I went on the cheap here and just made cut outs then I can take in and out when I want. I should have gone with another sub on the other side and a 1000/1. In the mean time I put in a bass boost knob near the rear hatch button. I had to mount the master volume near the deck as well. At the last min I decided to put neons in . It came out pretty well with a few small issues here and there. Ah well here's the pics enjoy.

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[Hemi_charger]

nice that is really clean

[TeeJizzle]

what do you mean when you say "clean sweep"?

[cofo]

could you maybe provide a small how to on the wiring process for using the stock head unit? id like to add a sub and a amp to my stock unit aswell, but have no clue really :(

cofo

[BlackCharger06]

what do you mean when you say "clean sweep"?

The little box under the driver side. It takes the signals out of the factory amp and converts them to line level. This way I can send them to the aftermarket amps direct. The clean sweep lets me keep the factory deck and all my steering wheel funtions. It's also produces a flat eq instead of the one that comes from the factory system. I turn up the bass to about 5 and the treble to about 4 and leave the mid alone. It sounds great to me.

[NYT]

awesome setup man. great components. ive been trying to price out a system that is very similiar to yours but with diff mids. could you tell me where you bought and for how much?

im guessing you did the fiberglass fab yourself. could you make and sell another? if so, how much?

[ekaz]

Nice setup. The same thing I'm planning on doing once the weather cools off a bit, not that great at fiberglassing yet.
In addition to the Cleansweep, this (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_cleansweep_pages.php?page_id=193) may help with summing the front channels.
Where did you get the carpet? It looks perfect.

[TeeJizzle]

So, with the CleanSweep, you have the option of converting back to factory settings?

[LeeR]

That's amazing! Do you have any more pics of the sub box, during the building process? I really want to try to make me one but I need a little more info!!!!

[Signwave]

Black charger,

Nice setup. I really enjoy a clean, stealthy system like that.
I see you had a noise problem on the JL clean sweep outputs, are those Audiovox ground loop isolators? My only crit is the cleansweep install looks a bit messy, but thats a bit minor when you consider its under a seat and no one will ever see it. Great Job.

[BlackCharger06]

awesome setup man. great components. ive been trying to price out a system that is very similiar to yours but with diff mids. could you tell me where you bought and for how much?

im guessing you did the fiberglass fab yourself. could you make and sell another? if so, how much?


I bought most of my stuff from tweeter. Awhile back they dumped mb quart and went with focal. Now they are dumping focal and going with JBL oh well. I got the quarts on clearence for 599. They retail for almost 1500 so what the hell right? The Sl95's I bought on sale for 150 retail was as high as 300 at some places. Sub amp i got with the clean sweep on the LXforums for hmmm 400 maybe? I got the 450/4 for 650 at tweeter. I could have gotten it cheaper on ebay, but I wanted the warranty just in case. I bought the 10w7 at tweeter as well because of this, that was hmmm in the low 400's. The Rca's I had here and there form old installs.
I went to a few local shops here in boston and one wanted 6-7 grand for what I did. Another wanted almost 8, but that was with zapco amps and 2 10w6's instead. I would be 300 more watts of bass but If i put another sub in i'm going with a 1000.1 and another 10w7. They are loud and obnixous like me ;) Robby HO is doing fiberglass for good money I forget exactly how much over on the LX forums. I got mine done with the help of my Red Sox Season Tickets. They work wonders.

[BlackCharger06]

Nice setup. The same thing I'm planning on doing once the weather cools off a bit, not that great at fiberglassing yet.
In addition to the Cleansweep, this (http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_cleansweep_pages.php?page_id=193) may help with summing the front channels.
Where did you get the carpet? It looks perfect.

I forget the name of the place, but there is a fabric store here in watertown (5 miles outside of boston) that has it. Any interior place can get it for you. Home Depot wasn't much of a help, and if you just need a little you can get it at an auto parts store. Some people like my friend gino wanted blue because he has a wrx. In this case a fabric store would be a better fit.

[Tahde]

Nice setup. Looks really good. Great job! I like

[choder]

Beautiful job man. That sub box looks like it was always there.

[NYT]

I bought most of my stuff from tweeter. Awhile back they dumped mb quart and went with focal. Now they are dumping focal and going with JBL oh well. I got the quarts on clearence for 599. They retail for almost 1500 so what the hell right? The Sl95's I bought on sale for 150 retail was as high as 300 at some places. Sub amp i got with the clean sweep on the LXforums for hmmm 400 maybe? I got the 450/4 for 650 at tweeter. I could have gotten it cheaper on ebay, but I wanted the warranty just in case. I bought the 10w7 at tweeter as well because of this, that was hmmm in the low 400's. The Rca's I had here and there form old installs.
I went to a few local shops here in boston and one wanted 6-7 grand for what I did. Another wanted almost 8, but that was with zapco amps and 2 10w6's instead. I would be 300 more watts of bass but If i put another sub in i'm going with a 1000.1 and another 10w7. They are loud and obnixous like me ;) Robby HO is doing fiberglass for good money I forget exactly how much over on the LX forums. I got mine done with the help of my Red Sox Season Tickets. They work wonders.

thanks for the info. i was going with JBL as well. other than that, the price is around the same for what i was estimating. ill prob wait come income tax return time. ;)

they say the perfect amp for that w7 10" is the 500.1. for you to be 2 with a 1000.1 it will be running around 160+ decibels. god dayum!!!

[BlackCharger06]

160db's? bring it ;) I swear i'm going deaf already. Right now the treble is at +5 I had it at my old level of 8 or 9 for the first day. I didn;t hear it but I could feel it. My ears rang in no time. but 160 you say. hmmmm semi hemi had a db meter test in his car. I'd like to see if I could break his numbers. :yes:

[jay2puff]

really nice job the finish job look great:rolleyes:

[drober30]

That is sweet!!! Really clean.

My car is at the sound shop getting some work done now. Are you happy with the one 10W7? Does it hit hard? Can you feel it?

[BlackCharger06]

That is sweet!!! Really clean.

My car is at the sound shop getting some work done now. Are you happy with the one 10W7? Does it hit hard? Can you feel it?


Yea it hits pretty hard. I have a bass knob in so if it doesn't hit hard I just turn it up. I'm not much of a bass head so that is y i went with just one sub. I keep thinking i should have gone with 2 w7's and a 1000/1 but I think i am good for now. But who knows ya knwo pics will be up if I do. I just like it caus it;s a ncie clean look that allows me to use my trunk. I hate how those boxes look they is no style to them.

[drober30]

Yea it hits pretty hard. I have a bass knob in so if it doesn't hit hard I just turn it up. I'm not much of a bass head so that is y i went with just one sub. I keep thinking i should have gone with 2 w7's and a 1000/1 but I think i am good for now. But who knows ya knwo pics will be up if I do. I just like it caus it;s a ncie clean look that allows me to use my trunk. I hate how those boxes look they is no style to them.

So true on the look of a "box". How are you going to protect your sub when you use your trunk?

[shark164]

Did you have to loose your spare? I have a jammin system in mine as well but I wanna take the amps and move them in the back. Right now they are on the back of the rear seats.

[BlackCharger06]

Did you have to loose your spare? I have a jammin system in mine as well but I wanna take the amps and move them in the back. Right now they are on the back of the rear seats. So true on the look of a "box". How are you going to protect your sub when you use your trunk?

Yea if u want to spot me at carisle real easy look for me at the hotel carring my jack and my spare into the hotel room. I like to fould down my seat and I might do a nitrous, so I need the extra room. As it is now I like a nice empty trunk. I hate boxes and amps and subs all over the place. As it is, I have that giant sub sticking out on the driverside. When I use my trunk i'm just careful. THe sub jets out a bit at the bottom so not much goes near it. I had some luggage knock against it, but that won't hurt it much. If was carrying around spears in my trunk that would be a different story.

[drober30]

Yea if u want to spot me at carisle real easy look for me at the hotel carring my jack and my spare into the hotel room. I like to fould down my seat and I might do a nitrous, so I need the extra room. As it is now I like a nice empty trunk. I hate boxes and amps and subs all over the place. As it is, I have that giant sub sticking out on the driverside. When I use my trunk i'm just careful. THe sub jets out a bit at the bottom so not much goes near it. I had some luggage knock against it, but that won't hurt it much. If was carrying around spears in my trunk that would be a different story.

I really like your setup and was going to have the sound shop duplicate it but it was determined that I would loose my spare. I don’t want to lose my spare because my daughters 6 & 1 years of age may be in the car.

I went with 1 12W7 in the center of the trunk with both amps mounted to the side of it all in a fiberglass enclosure painted to match the car.

Since I went with this setup the amps will be lit up with blue neon. I figured if I could not have a stealth install I might as well show it off.

[shark164]

Thanks for the info. I will be doing a major overhaul when it starts cooling down. I'll post some pics as I go.

[BlackCharger06]

I really like your setup and was going to have the sound shop duplicate it but it was determined that I would loose my spare. I don’t want to lose my spare because my daughters 6 & 1 years of age may be in the car.

I went with 1 12W7 in the center of the trunk with both amps mounted to the side of it all in a fiberglass enclosure painted to match the car.

Since I went with this setup the amps will be lit up with blue neon. I figured if I could not have a stealth install I might as well show it off.


Yea? that's going to look pretty cool. For me If i'm local I know like every garage in the area. Getting towed home and putting on the spare or the full size tire I just bought off ebay isn't and Issue. I have AAA gold and if I go on a long trip, I just bring it with me. But when i Mean i say like 400 miles to carisle from boston. Post pics of that beast will ya

[drober30]

Yea? that's going to look pretty cool. For me If i'm local I know like every garage in the area. Getting towed home and putting on the spare or the full size tire I just bought off ebay isn't and Issue. I have AAA gold and if I go on a long trip, I just bring it with me. But when i Mean i say like 400 miles to carisle from boston. Post pics of that beast will ya

I'll post pics in about two weeks.

[TeeJizzle]

Local stereo shop wants to charge me $1300 to install a clean sweep with my two factory amps and sub box. If the Clean Sweep is $400, that equates to a $900 installation charge. But they say thats using the goos Stinger wires. It may be less with cheaper wiring (RCA) Is this a good deal? Does the clean sweep come with a factory radio interface plug?

[BlackCharger06]

Local stereo shop wants to charge me $1300 to install a clean sweep with my two factory amps and sub box. If the Clean Sweep is $400, that equates to a $900 installation charge. But they say thats using the goos Stinger wires. It may be less with cheaper wiring (RCA) Is this a good deal? Does the clean sweep come with a factory radio interface plug?

THat seems kinda high. Are they installing 2 amps. The chargers only come with one. I think anways. And the sub box, hmmm are they building it or putting it in? 400 bucks is what they would charge for it. 50 bucks an hour for labor 18 hours of labor idunno. Look around at some other shops. Make sure they have worked on an Lx car before. There are a lot of hacks out there.

[TeeJizzle]

They are the only shop that sells the clean sweep and is liscensed to install it. I saw the clean sweep online for cheaper than they offer. Really I'm trying to justify buying a clean sweep. They claim that it will sound better than any aftermarket stereo.

[BlackCharger06]

They are the only shop that sells the clean sweep and is liscensed to install it. I saw the clean sweep online for cheaper than they offer. Really I'm trying to justify buying a clean sweep. They claim that it will sound better than any aftermarket stereo.

I'm on the fence about getting a new apline touch screen. I can always sell you my cleansweep. You can always buy it online and have them install it lata on. Just make sure they tap the factory amp if they tap the radio u will lose the bass mid and treble control. Idunno if it will sound better.
With the clean sweep and the factory radio i picked up some static and whine, which i fixed by turning down the gain on the amps and putting in a ground loop isolator. If you want something that sound really good, you are better off going with a aftermarket deck. The only reason I went with the clean sweep is because I wanted to keep the factory deck and play tapes :) I've got master of puppets in now and and a ton of other tapes from back in highschool.
The instructions on the clean sweep are right on the JL site. They are pretty straight foward, just remember to get the tsb about the radio fixed. Before I got everything installed, I never put the volume above 25. Now I have it preset at 30, but what would happen is with stong recording levels or heavy bass the volume would go down. Here is a copy of the tsb. Hope this helps ya. http://www.wkjeeps.com/misc/LX/TSB/TSB_0805605.pdf

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[chadillac3]

I hate to bring up such an old post, but did you put the QTD25's up in the dash locations?

[BlackCharger06]

I hate to bring up such an old post, but did you put the QTD25's up in the dash locations?

qsd 216, yea put them in the stock locations. I didn't want to drill holes in the A pillars. If ya have any other questions let me know. I was sold on the apline ivaw200 but now i;m looking at the new 205 of that new d-3 everyone is talking about.

[chadillac3]

W200 is a very nice unit; had one in the Xterra before it got jacked...partly why I most likely will never use another video unit. :) I used it in conjuction w/ the PXA-H701 sound processor and it was almost addictive to play with.

The QTD25 is the tweet from the QSD and QSC set, just FYI in case you were wondering where I got QTD25. I have the 3 way QSC set which uses the QTD25 and a very, very slightly modified midrange and midbass (coating on the cone is slightly different) and really enjoyed the sound. The major difference between the QSC and QSD is in the passives, but as I'm trying to get away from bi-amping and/or actively processing I decided to just use the QSC's.

Just a matter of getting them into the R/T. The 4" QSC mid will fit into a 3.5" location, just a matter of how to do the tweets in the a-pillars and make 'em look nice.

[sound&security]

if u come down to ft lauderdale i'll give you a job!!!! did u spy on me? i have the same set up in my charger. my set up is like this- dash JL audio 4 inch crossed over at 90-140 hz front doors JL 6x9 mid drivers crossed over at 65-110hz and the deck is 6x9 JL runing at 80-125. JL 6 channel with two w7's and the amp is flushed into the trunk floor. and i had to dynamat every thing and the car still rattles but it kicks major a$$!!!! the head unit that im using is the new premier 9700 pioneer how do you like the clean sweep? they work great. i like the dust cover you made under the seat . great job.

[hemimaddness]

verry nice clean install

[sound&security]

did u have any problems with engine whine from youre amps being so close to the battery and fuse box? i had a big problem with that but found a way a round it i grounded the RCA's to the amp ground.

[sound&security]

if you take out the stock sub out of the rear deck and port the deck with a 3 inch port tube you will see a huge difference in the bass and you can turn down the power some on the amp. just port the deck were the stock woofer would sit with a 3x7 port tube and cut a thight hole threw the trunk cover panel and when you have the deck out dynamat the deck around the trunk lite and under the rear 6x9's and there wont be any rattles plus we filled the lower cover around the rear speakers with fiber fill 2 bags worth and the bottom of the trim panel wont rattle againist the bottom of the deck and made the deck speakers sound a hell of a lot better. and we cut the deck around the rear and put the 6x9 speaker covers over the rears. the stock deck carpet really disorts and blocks the sound of the rears.

[chadillac3]

What size is the stock sub???

[chadillac3]

Or in my case, the stock sub location...

[BlackCharger06]

did u have any problems with engine whine from youre amps being so close to the battery and fuse box? i had a big problem with that but found a way a round it i grounded the RCA's to the amp ground.

I had some issues at first, but with a ground loop isolator that helped. I still get a small amount of system noise from the clean sweep, so I had to turn down the gains on the front channels alittle bit. The dust cover I made was more of be thinking about all the sand that we use up here in boston. We haven't had much of an issue this year, but I'm sure we will. I'm going to take it out soon, and go with a touchscreen dvd. I kinda wish I went with w6's instead of 1, w7, but I can do that another time. I know some people have had trouble fitting the 4 inch speakers in the factory 3.5 inch locations but whatever works I guess. I'd love to see similar set ups such as mine. So if ya got pics post them.

[chadillac3]

The MBQ 4" midrange has a very small basket; it dropped right in to the 3.5" location of my Ram.

[sound&security]

The MBQ 4" midrange has a very small basket; it dropped right in to the 3.5" location of my Ram.

the factory sub is a very tight 8 inch on the right rear of the rear deck.

[sound&security]

the RCA filters you are using are for video systems with low power out put. switch to a good set like pac and put them in the rear of your RCA'S. they need to be the last thing in the line to the amp so plug them in to the amp and the rca's in to them. the reason you are getting whine is fron all the ground points on the car. if you have heated and power seats you will have 3 ground wires bolted to the floor under youre seat and you have your clean swipe and the RCA'S runing rite past them and the fuel pump power and ground are both runing down the drivers side of the car and give off radent noise in to the RCA'S. so put your filters at the amp and all motor whine will be gone. our cars have 9 interiogroun points and there is no way to run RCA wires to the trunk with out passing by a few of them and the right side of the car has the 0 gauge wire runing to the motor bay from the battery for the fuse block and starter so that side of the car picks up even worse engine whine.also if the noise filters are any were around the battery or rear fuse block you will still have whine. i had to turn my amp a full 180 to keep the filters away from the battery.

[BlackCharger06]

the RCA filters you are using are for video systems with low power out put. switch to a good set like pac and put them in the rear of your RCA'S. they need to be the last thing in the line to the amp so plug them in to the amp and the rca's in to them. the reason you are getting whine is fron all the ground points on the car. if you have heated and power seats you will have 3 ground wires bolted to the floor under youre seat and you have your clean swipe and the RCA'S runing rite past them and the fuel pump power and ground are both runing down the drivers side of the car and give off radent noise in to the RCA'S. so put your filters at the amp and all motor whine will be gone. our cars have 9 interiogroun points and there is no way to run RCA wires to the trunk with out passing by a few of them and the right side of the car has the 0 gauge wire runing to the motor bay from the battery for the fuse block and starter so that side of the car picks up even worse engine whine.also if the noise filters are any were around the battery or rear fuse block you will still have whine. i had to turn my amp a full 180 to keep the filters away from the battery. Thanx for the tip. I got the whine fixed, I'll try the pac filters and see if that helps. It's not a whine i'm getting it's a hiss that you would get on any system with the volume turned up High. When the volume is turned up I can't hear it, it's only annoying when the radio is off and if i listen very closely I can hear the hiss out of the tweets. Thanx again for the tip.

[sound&security]

ground the 4 channel amp to the battery. the grounds on the chassie suck even if you strip the piant to the bare metal i had the same problems whine and hiss and reground the battery two! i used a new neg term with 4 holes for hook up. the factory power is 0 gauge and the ground is 8 gauge so i aded a 4 gauge ground with the factory ground to the stock ground point and first striped the paint off the factory ground point and sure as s**t my head lites got brighter and my amps went up to 14.13 on my alternator!!! so then i made the ground to the amp as short as possible and ground it to the ground of the battery and bingo no noise's. :headbang: :rockon: :yes: :wink: :drool: :tongue: :wave: :clap: do you feel the weight in the car? i feel mine and dont like it at all even with better sway bars. it feel like i'm draging a trunk full of bricks. i'm think of getting rid of the subs in the trunk and putting a JL audio w7 8inch in the stock loction in the rear deck. by the way do u have a cap on your bass amp? i have a 2.0 ferreit cap on mine and no battery draw what so ever.

[BlackCharger06]

ground the 4 channel amp to the battery. the grounds on the chassie suck even if you strip the piant to the bare metal i had the same problems whine and hiss and reground the battery two! i used a new neg term with 4 holes for hook up. the factory power is 0 gauge and the ground is 8 gauge so i aded a 4 gauge ground with the factory ground to the stock ground point and first striped the paint off the factory ground point and sure as s**t my head lites got brighter and my amps went up to 14.13 on my alternator!!! so then i made the ground to the amp as short as possible and ground it to the ground of the battery and bingo no noise's. :headbang: :rockon: :yes: :wink: :drool: :tongue: :wave: :clap: do you feel the weight in the car? i feel mine and dont like it at all even with better sway bars. it feel like i'm draging a trunk full of bricks. i'm think of getting rid of the subs in the trunk and putting a JL audio w7 8inch in the stock loction in the rear deck. by the way do u have a cap on your bass amp? i have a 2.0 ferreit cap on mine and no battery draw what so ever.

I'll have to give the filter a try. If that doesn't work I can try the grounding method. My car isn't that slow. WHen I went to the track when I first got it. i was getting 13.9 in the 1/4 mile. Ater stereo I was getting around 14.1, but weather traction reaction time. It has a lot to do with it. 2 10th's isn't a big deal. With 390 pounds of tq a few hundred pounds shouldn't make a difference. I also don't have the spare in anymore so you have to take that into account as well. I have an alumapro one farad and it does the job. My lights might dim a tad but I'm not going to buy a new altenator or something crazy. As it is right now I'm pushing 950 watts.

[chadillac3]

How you planning to install the 8W7??? IB or put an enclosure up there??

[sound&security]

if i switch over to the 8inch i will just mount it top loaded in the deck. with the stock speaker baffle in place. it will work with out a enclosure because its dual voice coil and will use the trunk as its enclosure.

[tyoung]

Super clean, looks factory. Nice set up.

[chadillac3]

if i switch over to the 8inch i will just mount it top loaded in the deck. with the stock speaker baffle in place. it will work with out a enclosure because its dual voice coil and will use the trunk as its enclosure.

Uhhh, being a DVC has nothing to do with how it will perform IB. However, it's high Qts would lead me to believe it would do well...problem being is that it's output will be limited. If you end up doing it, though...please let me know as I have an 8W7 sitting around and am curious as to how it would sound.

[sound&security]

well to ansewer your question i just removed my two 12's and installed the 8w7 and i had to cut a hole in the bottom deck cover for the mag to stick throw a little but it sounds good with the trunk closed. its not two 12's but it is 4 time the bass of the stock woofer and i'm thinking of cuting the deck cover to make a custom 8 inch grill cover to let move sound threw like i did to the 6x9's..... on the rear 6x9;s i used 5x7 covers because of the clearance of the window 6x9 covers will ride tight againist the rear window. rite now the 8 is runing at 2 ohm's and seeing about peaks of 150 watts altho it can handle 300 but not with out a enclosure its sounds clean so far and no rattles and the rear window is helping to push the sound forward and to build pressure i'll let you know if i blow it out in a couple of days and after i tune it a bit. its sure is a lot lighter the 2 12w7's and an enclosure.. im to old to be banging up the neighbor hood these days and all i'm looking for is a super clean more powerful system and not so much of scaring every one on the block.

[chadillac3]

It's literally impossible for an 8W7 to "run at 2 ohms" as it is has a single 3 ohm nominal voice coil, just FYI. What amplifier are you using to run it, and you're not having issue with the surround hitting the cover over the rear deck??? An 8W7 sticks out a heckuva lot farther than the stock woofer.

But it did drop right into the place of the 8" stock?

[chadillac3]

Most importantly...pics?!?!?!? :)

[chadillac3]

I really would love to see pics of that installed...just from looking, it seems like a damn near impossible feat to drop that thing in from the top side, but seeing is believing. :)

[sound&security]

amp is a JL 6 channel and the deck isnt even close to touching the suround of the woofer and as a matter of fact the deck has a 3 inch void between itself and the metal deck and the stock woofer is raised to meet the deck and the JL 8w0 fits sloppy in the cut out and the 8w7 wouldnt fit with out a little trim job of the deck. and the 8w7 runs at 2.5 to 2.7 ohm's when new and at 3ohm's if it's worn a little bit and i've seen them run at 3.5 and my amp has been worked as a cheater amp and all my subs even the 8w7 have been rewound. all the cap's heat sinks and outputs on my amp have been replaced and the intire board has been resodered to handle more heat. my amp has been worked to handle 1 0hm loads!!!! Rite now my 8w7 is showing 1.5ohm's but that will change fast when its abused a bit and by the way the stock 6x9;s have a void between them and the deck of about 2 inches so we put the new JL 6x9;s on a 1 inch ring to bring them closer to the deck first dynamated the deck then ring then speaker and there is still a half inch void between the deck and the 6x9's and the 8 was first dynamated then a foam gasket then mounted and the 8 still has a 1/4 inch of clearance before it hits the deck and since it's not in a enclosure it might hit the deck so thats why i'm thinking of cutting the deck for sound and clearance so only time will tell. and i do compete in daytona every year in sound quality! at the spring break nationals

[NOLAchargerRT]

I bet it sounds nice. I've been debating a similar set up for awhile now, but haven't taken the measurements to see if 2 8w7's would fit. Still trying to see if i'd rather go w7 or L7 for the rear deck like then up side-by-side or maybe a pair of L7's in the behind the rear passenger arm rest with a aero port in the rear deck. Nice and concealed when the arm rest is flipped up then flip it down to reveal the sub's.

[sound&security]

and yes we cut the deck with a air saw. then pulled the deck down by hand so the woofer mag and cone would clear the window and deck and then pushed the deck back up a jack and spot welded the deck back together from the bottom side and nothing is impossible. after we spot welded the deck together we seam sealed the cuts closed. my corvette was in sound@security magazine 6 years ago and we had 10w0's in the front floors!!! just in case your asking i charge $115 a hour for custom work!

[sound&security]

the woofers can not be mounted from the bottom of the deck!!! they have to be mounted from the top in order to seal them away from the back of them self's yes you can get 2 10's in the deck but you will have to lose the seat belt in the deck and for sure either cut the intire deck away and make a new deck out of M.D.F or remove the rear window do your work and reinstall the glass. and that will be a big problem if you blow a woofer! so i would cut the deck away leaving only 4 or 5 inches of metal on the sides to mount 1/4 M.D.F to the deck so you can mount 2 10's to the new deck and lift them both in at the same time. and put rear speaker in to the rear door panels just for a little rear fill in. hey but thats just me. my car evey thing is in the stock location's for the clean stock look but if you dont care and dont ever think of putting it back to stock them cut away dude!!!

[modesto83]

so are there any pictures of your set up? i'm sure there are others outhere that would love to see pictures of this custom install

[chadillac3]

amp is a JL 6 channel and the deck isnt even close to touching the suround of the woofer and as a matter of fact the deck has a 3 inch void between itself and the metal deck and the stock woofer is raised to meet the deck and the JL 8w0 fits sloppy in the cut out and the 8w7 wouldnt fit with out a little trim job of the deck. and the 8w7 runs at 2.5 to 2.7 ohm's when new and at 3ohm's if it's worn a little bit and i've seen them run at 3.5 and my amp has been worked as a cheater amp and all my subs even the 8w7 have been rewound. all the cap's heat sinks and outputs on my amp have been replaced and the intire board has been resodered to handle more heat. my amp has been worked to handle 1 0hm loads!!!! Rite now my 8w7 is showing 1.5ohm's but that will change fast when its abused a bit and by the way the stock 6x9;s have a void between them and the deck of about 2 inches so we put the new JL 6x9;s on a 1 inch ring to bring them closer to the deck first dynamated the deck then ring then speaker and there is still a half inch void between the deck and the 6x9's and the 8 was first dynamated then a foam gasket then mounted and the 8 still has a 1/4 inch of clearance before it hits the deck and since it's not in a enclosure it might hit the deck so thats why i'm thinking of cutting the deck for sound and clearance so only time will tell. and i do compete in daytona every year in sound quality! at the spring break nationals


The only 6 ch amp JL has made was from the lower line E series (now A series I believe)...find it hard to believe that amp is worth modding vs. just going with the Slash series. And why would you modify an 8W7? I wasn't even aware JL does that, and I don't see how that would help you at all vs. just using an approrpriate amp for it???

What class do you compete at in SBN? You know Steve Head? Pretty well known SQ guy down in Florida.

[DODGEBALLS]

That's one of the best installs I have ever seen !!!!!!! AWESOME

[modesto83]

That's one of the best installs I have ever seen !!!!!!! AWESOME

where are the pics at, i wanna see

[sound&security]

my amp was worked as a cheater amp. it's the new A and yes i know of steve. JL doesnt do my work i do it my self at a repair shop that we have. in 2001 myself and my buddy took the world SQ final's in S.C with a 01 dodge ram with all the amps and sub's flushed into the floor's. and it got the cover of sound@security magazine in feb 2002. we used all kicker bottom of the line stuff that was tweaked. i own tintland sound@security with 2 location's in ft lauderdale and majic car sound in lauderhill fla. the E and A series amp's are already able to handle 2 ohm;s and 1ohm' loads and 500 watts on the sub channel's are easy to obtain and chanel's 1-4 go from 75@2ohm;s x 4 to 100@4ohm;sx 4 and 200@2x4 and for me it's only a $80 make over of the cost of the slash series. so i have a amp that costs me nothing wholesale and i spend less then a $100 to tweek and the look on the faces of the people who laugh at it is prices less! why would i buy a slash whole sale and spend twice the money when i can do more for less! inside the board and outer case is the same. heat sink's and power supply is the only thing thats diff and the cap's. one pizza a six pack and $80 worth of part's and it's time to rock! i think steve is working at select product;s in plantation fla but not sure. that's what i heard. and dont know were i heard it. paul peirrow is there and is a big deal down here with S.Q he had a lexus is 300 with 2 10'2 flushed in to the floor pan's on the front floor's and you could not tell at all from under the car. and the 8w7 in my car is floping a little so it's going to need bto be rethought. maybe some sort of enclosure around it.

[jameelpdiaz]

I have a question, I have fully wired my amp but I cannot get it to turn on. I'm keeping the factory head unit, I know how to tap into the speakers but I don't know where the p.connect is to turn the amp on...Can you help??

[BlackCharger06]

I have a question, I have fully wired my amp but I cannot get it to turn on. I'm keeping the factory head unit, I know how to tap into the speakers but I don't know where the p.connect is to turn the amp on...Can you help??


hmmm thats a not so good. I have the clean sweep in mine which had a remote wire which i could use. I know guys tap the cigs lighter and that seems to work. Did you use the pac audio harness?

[Brmracer]

wow, awesome setup. i bet it sounds great!!

[flips_3.5l]

clean set up. i just installed two tens on mine my amp turns on but my hi/lo convertor seems like theres only one jack working.is this normal?

[BlackCharger06]

clean set up. i just installed two tens on mine my amp turns on but my hi/lo convertor seems like theres only one jack working.is this normal?



Hmmm your hi low huh? Are u running them in mono, or stereo? That could be why you only have one jack working. I know how to get my stuff working when it comes to other peoples i'll be the first to admit i'm not the best to talk to, but if I can help anyone else or if anyone wants to say how cool my system is I'm all for it. Coming this summer iva-w205 and pxa-h701

[Falcon9901]

I have a question, I have fully wired my amp but I cannot get it to turn on. I'm keeping the factory head unit, I know how to tap into the speakers but I don't know where the p.connect is to turn the amp on...Can you help??

Make it easy and run a direct line with a fuse to the battery. Throw a switch in there and you're good to go

[rsmeanie]

I have a question, I have fully wired my amp but I cannot get it to turn on. I'm keeping the factory head unit, I know how to tap into the speakers but I don't know where the p.connect is to turn the amp on...Can you help??

You could use this.

http://www.pac-audio.com/products/productsCatagory.asp?mmSearch=Trigger%20Modules

Pac Audio makes a trigger module that connects to your speakers and gives you a 12v + trigger. It also has a 1 second delay so you don't get that pop when you first turn on your system. A toggle switch will work but the first time you forget to turn it off and leave your amp on all day while your at work, you'll wish you had the trigger module.

[TeeJizzle]

I have a question, I have fully wired my amp but I cannot get it to turn on. I'm keeping the factory head unit, I know how to tap into the speakers but I don't know where the p.connect is to turn the amp on...Can you help??

If you don't use an amp with the built in remote, you can run a toggle switch and manally turn on and off your amps. You can can't run a remote wire to the factory radio without throwing codes. I have a toggle switch in my car.

[Major]

Absolutely beautiful! Now where do I need to drop my car off at for the work! I love the amp rack, is your spare still in the trunk? I take it that you do this for a living by the pics. Great work!

[BlackCharger06]

Absolutely beautiful! Now where do I need to drop my car off at for the work! I love the amp rack, is your spare still in the trunk? I take it that you do this for a living by the pics. Great work!


I did the install myself and with help from borders books. I got a book, how to build/design performance car audio. I had someone do the sub and there ya go all done. Linxkidd on Lxforums and Semi Hemi were a big help. I had to loose the spare, so if you see a guy wheeling it into the hotel at the nats or the all Chrysler nats that's me. I'm still not done but I don't think you ever are with these cars.

[Nomad^Phoenix]

It does look good! I've been struggling with mine. Not sure what to do next. My subs are not making me happy. They are Infinity's, and they sound great, but not as rich as I'd like, but that isn't the problem.

The problem is where they are. At the time, I didn't want to give up my rear fold down seats in case, you know? I do drop them every once in a while. So I bought these Infinity Basslinks (Self-amped), two of them. But location wise was on each side of the wheel well so I could still drop the seats and have a small hole if needed. The amps (which are for my speakers) had to go down there, too. It just doesn't look good, but it sounds great.

So I want to get rid of the Basslinks, plain and simple.

I know that if I upgrade to a box, I'll be golden in terms of sight and sound, but where to put the amps? And I can't drop the seats then. I could mount the amps on the back of the seats, but I dunno about that.

Another solution I've been thinking of is to get a different kind of Basslink that has three in a row, that just (and I do mean just) fit right on the back of the seat, which allows it to still fold down in case I want it to. This has One 10" woofer and Two 10" passive radiators. But I don't know what a passive radiator is. I mean, what's the difference?

And if I went with this method, I still have to find a place to put those damned amps.

Any suggestions? Dodge did not make this trunk mod friendly.

[BlackCharger06]

t the amps on the back of the seats, but I dunno about that.

amps.

Any suggestions? Dodge did not make this trunk mod friendly.

It's a lot better then some of the other trunks I've seen. If you want get a pocket sub. Put the amp on the other side. That way you still have access to the spare.