Chargers and tools stolen from local (Indy) ealership

[kenobi0001]

Three dodge chargers and $60,000 dollars worth of tools were stolen from a local dodge dealership near by me. The dealer is located on shadeland ave. None of this property has been recovered, at least at this writing. Please call the Indianapolis Police if you have any info.

[HemiChemi]

Three dodge chargers and $60,000 dollars worth of tools were stolen from a local dodge dealership near by me. The dealer is located on shadeland ave. None of this property has been recovered, at least at this writing. Please call the Indianapolis Police if you have any info.They must have either stolen the keys or had a car carrier...

(Have they checked YOUR driveway, yet?) :grin: :wink:

[kenobi0001]

Supposedly some of the tools they stole were designed to break the chargers security systems

[kenobi0001]

My charger still here!

[a14umbra]

That sh*t pisses me off. If it aint yours, don't touch it.

[DA X 6]

Supposedly some of the tools they stole were designed to break the chargers security systems

Apparently the tools work as designed...

[a14umbra]

Apparently the tools work as designed...

:D

[HemiChemi]

My charger still here!DOH! I was attempting to joke that maybe one of the missing ones might be found in your driveway.. :nervous s

Sorry to make you worry! :(

[a14umbra]

DOH! I was attempting to joke that maybe one of the missing ones might be found in your driveway.. :nervous s

Sorry to make you worry! :(


Next you'll be suggesting he go to the dentist. :rolleyes:

[HemiChemi]

Next you'll be suggesting he go to the dentist. :rolleyes:Leave me alone... :(

[GLHS837]

The tool in question is the Starscan, which will indeed let you "teach" the car new keys, although theres a catch. You also need the cars PIN code, which can only be gotten by calling DCX, who logs which dealership and person at the dealer requested the PIN.

So, the short answer is that while they may have gotten the cars and Starscan, they didnt use the Starscan to steal the cars.

[Rivalry]

Three dodge chargers and $60,000 dollars worth of tools were stolen from a local dodge dealership near by me. The dealer is located on shadeland ave. None of this property has been recovered, at least at this writing. Please call the Indianapolis Police if you have any info.


Im in Indinapolis this week on business, it wasnt me! How far is this from 86th street?

[Rivalry]

Three dodge chargers and $60,000 dollars worth of tools were stolen from a local dodge dealership near by me. The dealer is located on shadeland ave. None of this property has been recovered, at least at this writing. Please call the Indianapolis Police if you have any info.


Im in Indinapolis this week on business, it wasnt me! How far is this from 86th street and 465?

[Paradog]

The tool in question is the Starscan, which will indeed let you "teach" the car new keys, although theres a catch. You also need the cars PIN code, which can only be gotten by calling DCX, who logs which dealership and person at the dealer requested the PIN.

So, the short answer is that while they may have gotten the cars and Starscan, they didnt use the Starscan to steal the cars.

Sounds like an inside job!

[GLHS837]

Not really required to be inside, smash glass, pry open stupid metal box holding keys, like this one.

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/victorystore00_1900_8498784

[HemiChemi]

Not really required to be inside, smash glass, pry open stupid metal box holding keys, like this one.

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/victorystore00_1900_8498784You're no fun... We we're thinking of calling Miss Marple!

[DA X 6]

You also need the cars PIN code, which can only be gotten by calling DCX.

I know more than a little about PINs and fraud, having worked for a HUGE credit card issuer in fraud investigation/analysis for six years. ANY system that requires a PIN can be beaten if the bad guys are smart enough and patient enough.

[BetoMXL]

damn... that is exactly what i want to do with the local dealer..... steal daytona... i already have an inside man with access to the keys...

[OoTLink]

Honestly they'd probably get away with this better if they were able to do some social engineering - having a keygrinder handy, steal keys, grind duplicate, stick both in to authenticate the 3rd, then carefully place necessary 1st and 2nd keys back (I know, they probably don't put the two in the same place), and then drive off with the car after hours.

Tricky part is stealing cars when the dealers usually park a car out in the entrance to prevent just that.

*shrugs* Hey, it was one way I could think of that came to mind, sure it'd be ridiculous, but it COULD have gone down that way.

[GLHS837]

I know more than a little about PINs and fraud, having worked for a HUGE credit card issuer in fraud investigation/analysis for six years. ANY system that requires a PIN can be beaten if the bad guys are smart enough and patient enough.

This is true, but the most important difference here is that the weakest link in any security system, the end user, isnt really involved:) Not that it cant be done, it can. But its harder than watching over Mrs Smiths shoulder or planting a mini cam.

Oot? If they have both keys, why would they need to teach the third one to the car?:) Just use one of the stock ones to drive the hell away:grin:

[kenobi0001]

Check out this link for more on this story.


http://www.wishtv.com/global/story.asp?S=5080894&nav=0Ra7

[HemiChemi]

Check out this link for more on this story.


http://www.wishtv.com/global/story.asp?S=5080894&nav=0Ra7If you're looking for some stocker parts, they'll be on ebay soon! :D:D:D:D

[GLHS837]

And to verify (as if you all needed it):) the amazing predictive powers of your very own SuperMod (somebody call Leno):) I proffer this quote from the article.

"The similarities in all the cases have been a break in, keys taken from the dealership and the cars stolen from the dealership," says Detective Tryon.

Not really required to be inside, smash glass, pry open stupid metal box holding keys, like this one.

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/victorystore00_1900_8498784


Now, in any dealers want to NOT be a part of this crime wave, its really freaking simple. Tighten the damn security on your freaking keys!!!!!! Use a real safe, not that cheesy pilferage preventer.

DCX has built whats effectively the impossible to steal car, even if the buggers have the damn Starscan, use that power!!!!!!!!!

[DutchMaster]

It was Dr. Arfur, in the Garage, with the StarScan.

http://www.thealmightyguru.com/Reviews/Clue/Images/Clue-MovieShot18.jpg

[GLHS837]

Use something like this, about $300 bucks.

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/everythingofficefurniture_1901_241276615
I promise you, these bozos are using standard practice against the dealers. One guy probably worked at one dealership or is just observant and noticed the lack of real security around the keys. .


See, as with almost all things, dealerships are living in the past. Used to be, the old saw about "they can steal anything", was really true. Using that, it doesnt make sense to lock up keys, since the cars were not safe anyway.

Anyone with any skill can steal almost any older car. Not so with these cars. The technical skills required make casual theft a thing of the past if you secure the keys, you secure the cars, except for flatbed thieves, but we know thats not the case here.

[GLHS837]

Bump for the newcomers.

[HemiChemi]

Bump for the newcomers.You're just trying to up your postcount!!!!!!!

[GLHS837]

Says the guy who joined 10 months after me, yet has 3,000 (yes, thats thousand:) ) more posts:)

Next!!!!!!:)

[HemiChemi]

Says the guy who joined 10 months after me, yet has 3,000 (yes, thats thousand:) ) more posts:)

Next!!!!!!:)Shall we count the other forums you post on? :whistle: How may do you have over yonder? This is the only forum I'm active in... :tongue:

[GLHS837]

Doh!@!!!!!!

[HemiChemi]

Doh!@!!!!!!Uh-huh!

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[GLHS837]

Hold on there, Skippy!!!!!!:)

(picks up raquet and smacks one back across the net, low and fast:)


GLHS837 SRTforums join date = Feb 2003 Current Date = June 2006

So, in just 7 months here, you posted more than half of what I posted there in 3 years and four months, at this rate, youll exceed my three year post count there in about one year:)

[HemiChemi]

Hold on there, Skippy!!!!!!:)

(picks up raquet and smacks one back across the net, low and fast:)


GLHS837 SRTforums join date = Feb 2003 Current Date = June 2006

So, in just 7 months here, you posted more than half of what I posted there in 3 years and four months, at this rate, youll exceed my three year post count there in about one year:)Shall I look at LXforums, too? :whistle:

[Raven]

I would bet a Daytona that the thieves were at the dealership(s) days before they broke in to case the joint, see where the keys are kept, 'test driving' a car or so, and in general seeing the layout of the land. They could innocuously ask questions about hours they are open, after hours security ("Would my new car be safe if I have to leave it overnight?"), etc.

All the thugs would have to do is act like a potential customer to find out inventory, location, security, etc... salesmen like to brag and talk and as we know, loose lips can sink ships (and get your car stolen).

I'm sure we'll read that at least one of the thieves will have been identified as having been on the lots PRIOR to the cars being stolen.

[HemiChemi]

I would bet a Daytona that the thieves were at the dealership(s) days before they broke in to case the joint, see where the keys are kept, 'test driving' a car or so, and in general seeing the layout of the land. They could innocuously ask questions about hours they are open, after hours security ("Would my new car be safe if I have to leave it overnight?"), etc.

All the thugs would have to do is act like a potential customer to find out inventory, location, security, etc... salesmen like to brag and talk and as we know, loose lips can sink ships (and get your car stolen).

I'm sure we'll read that at least one of the thieves will have been identified as having been on the lots PRIOR to the cars being stolen.Hi, Rave! :wave:

You live around there, don'tcha? We won't have to be visiting you in jail, will we? :whistle: :grin:

[GLHS837]

Shall I look at LXforums, too? :whistle:


Draw? :nervous s

[HemiChemi]

Draw? :nervous sPax vobiscum...:lol:

[Raven]

Hi, Rave! :wave:

You live around there, don'tcha? We won't have to be visiting you in jail, will we? :whistle: :grin:

Hi HC! :wave:

Nah, I live in Ohio about three hours from Indy so I'm not a suspect. :D