: 2011 Dodge Charger V6 HP vs. 2011 Challenger


ChargerS.X.T
11-23-2010, 03:44 PM
Dodge has the 3.6L tuned for more HP in the Challenger compared to the Charger.

Challenger SXT receives the same Pentastar V6 as the Charger, but it is tuned to deliver 305 hp (up 22 per cent over last year’s model) and 288 lb.-ft. torque (up 15 per cent). Compared to the Chargers 292 HP/260 lb.-ft.

Anybody know how they managed to up the torque by 28 lb.-ft?
That isn't easy, maybe direct injection?

http://www.canadiandriver.com/2010/11/23/feature-chrysler-rolls-out-new-vehicles-for-2011-part-two.htm

Requiem478
11-23-2010, 04:17 PM
Transmission? Just an idea..

Ron380
11-23-2010, 06:59 PM
The transmission can't change the output of the engine... :confused:

I would guess a different intake and exhaust system. Just like the options available from the Ford dealer for a Mustang. ;)

ChargerS.X.T
11-23-2010, 08:02 PM
Intake and exhaust can only add 5-10 HP max and not likely to add 28 lb-ft or torque.
Maybe a Dodge/Chrysler overstatement so they compete with the Camaro/Mustang.

richd
11-23-2010, 10:21 PM
Intake and exhaust can only add 5-10 HP max and not likely to add 28 lb-ft or torque.
Maybe a Dodge/Chrysler overstatement so they compete with the Camaro/Mustang.

Like you,I wondering what the differance could be.They might have a Hi-Po PCM.Here are some more crazy HP#s for the 3.6:


Horsepower Torque (lb-ft) 0-60 (est) EPA MPG
Dodge Challenger 305 268 18/26
Dodge Charger Pursuit 291 @ 6,400 260 @ 4,400 8.65
Minivans, Avenger, 200 283 @ 6,400 260 @ 4,800
Chrysler 300 and Dodge Charger 292 @ 6,400 260 @ 4,800 19/26
Jeep Grand Cherokee 290 @ 6,400 260 @ 4,800

dwhip
11-23-2010, 11:18 PM
The stock tune for the challenger is probably more agressive then the charger. I guess they figure they would make the challenger slightly faster then the charger since its going up against the V6 camaro and mustang

lovin' it
11-23-2010, 11:44 PM
I'd like to see the Chally get AWD!

Jonny
11-24-2010, 06:59 AM
Same deal with the 5.7L... maybe to offset the weight difference.

Requiem478
11-24-2010, 08:51 AM
Idk I didn't mean engine output I meant how it was being laid to the ground. I'm probably wrong though.

Jonny
11-24-2010, 09:02 AM
The differences in power between the new Hemis (truck vs. Charger vs Challenger) are attributable to the different intakes... and a lesser extent the exhausts.

One has the tunable intake with adjustable runners... depending on what you call "intake and exhaust" it can and does make a huge difference.

Requiem478
11-24-2010, 09:47 AM
The differences in power between the new Hemis (truck vs. Charger vs Challenger) are attributable to the different intakes... and a lesser extent the exhausts.

One has the tunable intake with adjustable runners... depending on what you call "intake and exhaust" it can and does make a huge difference.

I thought the new rams had the 6.7 cummins turbodiesel. But how do you figure the only difference is the intakes? I'm not doubting you just kinda surprised that an intake could make that much of a difference.

Jonny
11-24-2010, 09:58 AM
It's not the only difference, but a significant one. Just compare a single plane to a dual plane intake, now imagine being able to have the best of both...



As far as specifics for the 5.7L differences... pretty sure it was allpar, but I haven't been able to find it again.

Krush
11-24-2010, 03:16 PM
call me greedy for horsepower, but if I had the final say in the amount of power that all of those vehicles got from the same v6 it would be the absolute maximum 305bhp.

Any naturally aspirated 6 cylinder engine that can produce over 300 horses deserves to flex its muscles all across the board. not just in the challenger!

hskr
11-24-2010, 04:47 PM
Anyone else find it funny that the Charger Pursuit used for the cop cars is rated 1hp lower than the civilian Charger??

hskr
11-24-2010, 04:50 PM
And looks like the 288ft/lb rating in the Canadian Driver article might be a typo

ChargerS.X.T
11-24-2010, 05:17 PM
And looks like the 288ft/lb rating in the Canadian Driver article might be a typo

I agree and rich has it right in that it should read 268 lb/ft of torque.
Even the direct injected GM 3.6L has 273 lb/ft.
Torque is something that can't be significantly improved without a supercharger or turbocharger. It all based on engine size and the Japanese and European cars usually have more HP than torque but now the American car companies are doing the same thing.

TurboAWD
11-25-2010, 01:41 PM
Right now the 292HP 3.6L is the only V6 available in the Charger. You must think of the typical person thats buying it because its a 4-door sedan and will walk away if it has 305HP.

Pretty sure when they get the other V6's into production (I think its a 3.0L) then they can have a version with 260-270~ and a direct injected/MultiAir 3.6L with 340~ to cover a broader spectrum.

MauriSSio
11-27-2010, 10:34 AM
im sure it has more to do with trying to keep noise and vibrations and harshness to a minimum since a 6 cylinder charger will be used more as a family vehicle (and female drivers) than the other vehicles.