why is their no tuners out for the lx platform?

[HEMIRT]

it took a few months after the release of the 05 mustang to get several different brands of tuners out to market, and the 05 stangs computer is an all new thing, very complicated, and very fast, the lx platform has been out for a few years, and still nothing but a junk piggyback JET unit

[808Chargerfan]

For one thing, no demand, heavy demand from consumers for a tuner.
second, the computer has more complicated stuff and more features to bypass than the 05 mustang. and, almost everything in the charger is controlled by the computer.

plus, the stuff to crack the computer, and to reprogram it, AND create a software program to rework the computer, costs thousands of dollars.

Hope that answers your questions!


John

[HEMIRT]

so your saying the charger has a more complicated processor than the spanish oak?


the same r and d etc would go into the chrysler computer that would for anything else, i did beta testing for diablosport on the 05 mustang tuners, i think everyone needs to start making phone calls to SCT and diablosport daily to bug the hell out of them and show intrest, nothing will get done with everyone sitting on their asses twiddleing their thumbs patiently awaiting the arrival of a tuner.

[GLHS837]

Believe me, these guys are either still working on it, or have already tried and given up. DCX is not as open with their stuff as either Ford or GM. They have had a while now.

Go ahead and call, betcha it's one of the above answers, not a "Get interest and we'll do it. " Everybody knows DCX is going to be selling millions of these cars, and almost every darn Hemi owner is a potential customer.

[HEMIRT]

if it comes down to it ill go stand alone, im sick of this nanny "dont break me" crap


i want every one of the advertised 350 hp, whenever i want it, not when the computer wants to let me have it,

[GLHS837]

And that's worth 2-3K? Which is what a standalone will cost, all said and done.

[HEMIRT]

yeah its worth it, if i buy a car that is suppose to make xxx hp, i want xxx hp



so far this thing has laid down about 4 hp more than my 300 hp mustang did.

[GLHS837]

Then buy an SRT-4 or an LS1, or a Cobalt SS or Saturn Redline, which as far as I know are the only modern cars that routinely put the makes stated crank horsepower down at the wheels. When they say 340, thats a crank figure, allow for %15-%20 loss through the drivetrain.

[chargershed]

yeah its worth it, if i buy a car that is suppose to make xxx hp, i want xxx hp



so far this thing has laid down about 4 hp more than my 300 hp mustang did.

Most of the HEMI h.p. test's i've read about or seen, the engine routinely makes 360-370 h.p. at the crank. you'd be better off putting in a crane high lift cam and the magnaflow long tube headers....should add about 80-100 horses at the wheels with no mods of the PCM needed...no check engine light will come on, the program can handle it..

[maneval69]

Most of the HEMI h.p. test's i've read about or seen, the engine routinely makes 360-370 h.p. at the crank. you'd be better off putting in a crane high lift cam and the magnaflow long tube headers....should add about 80-100 horses at the wheels with no mods of the PCM needed...no check engine light will come on, the program can handle it..
Who has dynoed the LX hemi on an engine dyno? we need references.
The only engine dynos I've seen are on the crate motor.

And who has put a high lift cam in one of these engines? (Other than a cam manufacturer)
Not saying it isn't true. Of the three cams that Comp Cam is making the big one will not work without tuning

[HEMIRT]

Then buy an SRT-4 or an LS1, or a Cobalt SS or Saturn Redline, which as far as I know are the only modern cars that routinely put the makes stated crank horsepower down at the wheels. When they say 340, thats a crank figure, allow for %15-%20 loss through the drivetrain.


i am very glad you clarified this, i had no idea... :rolleyes:

[GLHS837]

Sorry if I misunderstood you. If you meant that you want all 340 crank at all times, under all conditions, then I did indeed misunderstand.

[HEMIRT]

what i meant is that the computer closes the throttle, backs timing etc when i want to romp on it, the mustangs were the same way, try a burnout it sounded like you were opening and closing the throttle, damn the nanny controls

[GotACharger]

what i meant is that the computer closes the throttle, backs timing etc when i want to romp on it, the mustangs were the same way, try a burnout it sounded like you were opening and closing the throttle, damn the nanny controls

I can't quite understand this but some days the R/T will light the rubber up without the ESP off. And others she's a dog from the light even with the ESP off. A read the thread on the ESP on the SRT 8 about holding the button for 5 sec for the ESP to turn off totally I tried this today with the button on the R/T (sitting in the driveway no test) but after the 5 or so seconds the light in the gage cluster with the car and sqiggly line blinks 3 x then goes off.... Do you think possibly that this is like the auto headlight mod already set up in the car just no one knows that this thing might work like the SRT 8. I am going to experiment with this tomrrow.

[Ceth Eslick]

In the latest Mopar Action, there are dynos of the production 5.7L comparing Comp's new cams. The stock cam dynoed 372 hp and 394 torque, with the only change being Dynatech headers. They don't say what dyno standard was used, which can be worth 20 hp in itself.

[vsop]

Saying that the dodge engine managment is much more complicated then the ford ecu.. would be way off.. The diffrence is that the Ford guys have been hacking them for years now because of the demand, so that the well established companies have the resources and the market driving them.

If we want to see the LX programming cracked we need to get some big players in the tuning world to feel the pressure and see a market demand that will make them money. I know I will not do any major mods to my srt until at least a year after the tuners have cracked the programming, so that I can give them time to see how they respond to tunes over a decent amount of time.

[Lanmon28]

Well, I posted a couple of threads on here about how I spoke with someone at SCT (Superchips) who told me that they have already cracked the code and are making final preps to release the software. This place actually rebuilt my mustang from the ground up and they know what they're doing Chris Johnson that founded SCT owns this place. They say the tuners should be ready in a couple of months. He did tell me they've been testing the Hemi's for quite some time now but they didn't want to really SAY anything until they were close to release date.