Borla Exhaust?

[Alley]

I was trying to check out the borla exhaust system since I heard they don't use resonaters but on there site they don't allow you to select 2006 for a year so you can't even view a Charger. Any other sites I can check them out on?

[DAYTONA_R/T]

look at the systems on thier site for the 2005 300C or the Magnum... the kits are 100% identical from what I have seen/read/heard

[GoDaddy]

http://www.hhpracing.com go to dodge charger and then on the second page of stuff there is both the systems from borla....112's have resinators, 125's don't have resinators.

if you want to see what it looks like with the 5" tips i can take a pic and show you....i love the 125 system.

[Alley]

Thanks I found them. So you think a cat-back sytem with no resonators will always be better for HP gains then one with since its less restrictive? I'm sure the sound will always be a bit louder.

Interesting how the system without resonators is more expensive. hehe.

[GoDaddy]

the horsepower issue is such a difficult subject. everyone has an opinion or a dyno sheet to show you. i believe i gained a little power out of it. It is an eye catcher and ear catcher for sure. My wife and I were at an autoshow this weekend and when we were leaving we were stopped by about 20 people. They loved the rumble and the sound of the rev. They all thought it sounded great. research over at lxforums.com and here and see what others have to say. in my opinion the borla 125's are more aggressive and louder than the zoomers. i haven't heard the mds change on the borla's but there is a little drone at around 2000rpms but i love the sound of it...and it passes the wife test.

good luck deciding man.

[geocharger2006]

Dyno the car stock got 264 hp put k&n filter got 282hp with filter but the Borla exhaust and got 304 hp very happy here putting headers next at LUJANMOTORSPORTS IN MIAMI FLORIDA

[hemibates]

Dyno the car stock got 264 hp put k&n filter got 282hp with filter but the Borla exhaust and got 304 hp very happy here putting headers next at LUJANMOTORSPORTS IN MIAMI FLORIDA

Was that a drop in filter or CAI?

[GoDaddy]

geocharger,

what borla exhaust do you have? i like those numbers!!!! should have my cold air intake in the next two weeks....going with the mopar cai.

if the wife lets me in the next month or so i will put in headers....i want the ceramic coated version of the dynamaxx, but they are on back order.

[geocharger2006]

It Was A Charger Filter Kit Box Intake,but Open In The Top .borla The One With Two Mufflers Big Nice Tips Sounds Great I Love It And Love The Power

[GoDaddy]

yeah the 125's with the 5" tips... i have those also.....they are incredible! my wife even loves 'em. very aggressive sounding.

[Slugworth]

I checked around my city's custom performance shops who specialize Borla exhuast systems, and they all tell me that the Charger version is not out yet. I asked about the one for the Magnum and 300, and the tell me that they are different systems because they are different cars. So I guess if I want it professionally done, I have to wait for the Charger version. Kinda sucks. I hope they release it soon. I can't wait!

[Thunderkiss]

I checked around my city's custom performance shops who specialize Borla exhuast systems, and they all tell me that the Charger version is not out yet. I asked about the one for the Magnum and 300, and the tell me that they are different systems because they are different cars. So I guess if I want it professionally done, I have to wait for the Charger version. Kinda sucks. I hope they release it soon. I can't wait!

Ummm, there is a least one person on this forum with the Borla's on his Charger. The part # is 140125. Those are the one's you want :happy:

[Lanmon28]

So the Borla part for the 5.7 exhaust system is 140125. Is that for the entire exhaust after the headers or JUST the catback? And are there headers out for the Charger yet? Preferably long tubes...

[bstowers]

So the Borla part for the 5.7 exhaust system is 140125. Is that for the entire exhaust after the headers or JUST the catback?

The 140112 kit seems to be the only "official" one for the Charger. If you look on the Borla new products page, you'll only see Charger on the 112 kit. But, if you punch in a 2005 Dodge Magnum R/T RWD, it'll pull up both the 112 and the 125 kit. GoDaddy has the 125 kit on his Charger and says he loves it. I've got the kit on order, but don't know when it will get here.

Also, I've seen it said many times that the catback system from Mopar is simply the 112 kit with Mopar stamped on the mufflers.

I believe the basic difference between the 112 and 125 is that the 112 has resonators and the 125 does not.


And are there headers out for the Charger yet? Preferably long tubes...

The only ones I know of that you can buy now are the Dynatechs. They are long tubes. I've read that Gibson is working on some short tubes that are supposed to be out next month.

[FullyCharged]

http://www.hhpracing.com go to dodge charger and then on the second page of stuff there is both the systems from borla....112's have resinators, 125's don't have resinators.

if you want to see what it looks like with the 5" tips i can take a pic and show you....i love the 125 system.

I would like to see a pic or two.. If you would be so kind.

[GoDaddy]

here is a decent pic of the 125's....if you need a different angle give me a yell.

[Patrick]

I was seaching around the 'net for Borla Part# 140112 for the 2006 Charger and I came across http://www.ajusa.com. The price they are selling them at is $791.97 with free shipping. I gave them a call to check if they have it in stock and they told me they had a few in stock. Just wanted to give you all a heads up.

[bstowers]

I would like to see a pic or two.. If you would be so kind.

I put up three of my 125s in the gallery.

Before & After (http://www.chargerforums.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=200&size=big&cat=500&page=1)
Rear Angled (http://www.chargerforums.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=207&size=big&cat=500&page=1)
Up Close (http://www.chargerforums.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=206&size=big&cat=500&page=1)


Big thanks to GoDaddy for talking me into doing them myself, and for helping me find and fix the rattle (damn that crossmember).

[GotACharger]

I put up three of my 125s in the gallery.

Before & After (http://www.chargerforums.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=200&size=big&cat=500&page=1)
Rear Angled (http://www.chargerforums.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=207&size=big&cat=500&page=1)
Up Close (http://www.chargerforums.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=206&size=big&cat=500&page=1)


Big thanks to GoDaddy for talking me into doing them myself, and for helping me find and fix the rattle (damn that crossmember).

Those tips look bad a$$.... so much to do ....I MUST have em.

[GoDaddy]

i think alot of people are scared off b/c of the tips...but it fits perfect with the look and attitude of the car....lots of guys over at lxforums.com thing they are too much on the mag. and 300c.....me say they are just purdy on the charga! lol anyway, if you think they look good, you have got to hear them....mucho bad a$$!!!

[GoDaddy]

hey bstower did you paint your engine cover, have someone do it, or steal it off of a daytona?

[bstowers]

hey bstower did you paint your engine cover, have someone do it, or steal it off of a daytona?

$10 plus an evening with scissors and masking tape.

Painting it was easy, masking the "5.7L V8" part took forever.

I followed Northern Rider's page (http://www.300talk.com/showthread.php?p=1627#post1627) on how to do it.

[GoDaddy]

"the student has become the teacher"..........now i want to try this!!!!

[bstowers]

The clip of GoDaddy's 125s (http://bstowers.mesanetworks.net/video/borla125s.wmv) is up.

I really turned the video portion of it way down to save my bandwidth since the car isn't moving anyway.

[CO-Charger]

OOOh... I like that... very low tone and gutsy. If I ever redo the Daytona's system (headers are a must sometime down the road), I will be looking into these Borla's.

[Slugworth]

I had my Borla 112's installed on my R/T Charger this morning. Looks and sounds great for the most part. One thing though. I'm hearing irregular buzzing and popping noises, mostly when I'm slowing down or coasting. This this normal? It sounds kind of weird. Its difficult to hear what it sounds like from the outside the car since I have to be driving for it to make the sound.

I had it installed at a performance auto shop. I've read online about how the battery may need to be disconnected for a few minutes to reset the computer? What happens if it is not reset? I don't think mine was reset because my radio station presets were still there.

Anyone have any ideas?

[GoofyGuy]

do the 125s make a lot of noise at say 60mph. If you can get me a video of this I would love to have it. and do the 112s have the same huge tips.

[bstowers]

I had my Borla 112's installed on my R/T Charger this morning. Looks and sounds great for the most part. One thing though. I'm hearing irregular buzzing and popping noises, mostly when I'm slowing down or coasting. This this normal? It sounds kind of weird.I'll bet it's the same thing as I had after doing my 125s. The instructions have you put on the center support bracket (a lot call it the cross member) after you tighten down all the clamps on the exhaust. This is a very bad idea (right, GoDadday?). It's easy enough to see if this is the problem if you have floor jack or some other way to look under there. Just check to see if the exhaust are resting on that support bracket, or are really close to it. You ought to have a descent gap between the pipes and the bracket. The way I fixed it (after GoDaddy helped me figure out where the problem was) was to loosen all the clamps back up, use a floor jack to raise the pipes off the cross member and then use some scrap to wedge them about 1/2" to 3/4" off of it. Then ratchet down all your the clamps (also check the driver side pipe in the back, it likes to get really close to the spare tire area). Raise the pipes back up just enough to get the wedge out of the cross member and it should be good to go. I haven't had a problem since doing this. Of course, if you had someone do the job for you, all the better.

I had it installed at a performance auto shop. I've read online about how the battery may need to be disconnected for a few minutes to reset the computer? What happens if it is not reset? I don't think mine was reset because my radio station presets were still there.

I didn't reset mine at all. Note: That's not to say I shouldn't have.

I'd start with the cross member if it sounds anything remotely like a vibration. Since you had it done by a shop, just tell them to take a look at the cross member clearance. If they followed the Borla instruction sheet that came with it, then it's likely the problem (or at least part of it).


do the 125s make a lot of noise at say 60mph. If you can get me a video of this I would love to have it.

I got some more of GoDaddy's videos up that he sent me. You can find them here:

http://bstowers.mesanetworks.net/video/launch.wmv
http://bstowers.mesanetworks.net/video/passby1.wmv
http://bstowers.mesanetworks.net/video/passby2.wmv

In addition to the one that was already up (idling):

http://bstowers.mesanetworks.net/video/borla125s.wmv

Please be kind to my bandwidth and save them locally if you think you'll them more than once.


and do the 112s have the same huge tips.

Not exactly. The 112s have resonators similar to the stock exhaust. They have tips that look similar to the stock, but I can't really compare the size based on the pics. You can find them here:

http://www.borla.com/products/product_detail.aspx?prod_sku=140112
http://www.borla.com/products/product_detail.aspx?prod_sku=140125

There are pics of both the exhaust kit, and the kit installed on a Magnum.

Maybe Slugworth can post a pic of his 112s installed and you can compare it to some of the 125s posted in the gallery?

[Lanmon28]

Someone may have said in a earlier post and I apologize if I missed it but on GODADDY's 125 setup...it is just the exhaust or does it have headers to?

[GoDaddy]

no headers as of yet lanmon.....my mopar cai is coming in next week so this weekend i will get some shots inside the car at wot and at cruising speed of around 60 to 70mph......that way the cai won't have any impact on sound addition.....probably not until xmas before i do the headers (but they are definitely coming)

bstower may agree with me but they aren't loud at all at 60 to 70mph. and bstower hit the nail on the head on the install fix ups....he is the man!!!

and oh adding this in...the 112's look just like the oe exhaust to me...but they are a little throatier than the stock exhaust.

[bstowers]

bstower may agree with me but they aren't loud at all at 60 to 70mph.I don't feel qualified to answer; I had been driving a 96 Impala SS with a Borla system for 8 years prior to getting the Charger. The 125s actually sound quiet to me. :)

[GoDaddy]

hey bstower i am excited...i found that feakin rattle...i have conquered the beast

[bstowers]

Gonna keep the lowing kit, then?

[GoDaddy]

man i love the look of the car....i just want new springs to help tighten up the back end....hotchkis isn't doing shocks, got an email back from them today....and nobody is telling me crap about the srt8 bilstein shocks on the mag. and srt8charger....if i could hook up with that...i am staying on the ground...if i can't find anything i may go with the mopar spring option and find a happy medium.....what would you do man?

[bstowers]

what would you do man?I'm not sure yet, that's why I was asking you. :)

I think I'm going do the new Gibson headers/Magnaflow cats next, so I'll give you another month or so to think about it. :)

[GoDaddy]

why not dynatech supermaxx? and damn you on watching me make a decision...lol i will get back with you on this ride and see what i think....my wife says keep the way it is and my 12 year old loves it...they aren't helping me at all. they love the look and say ride isn't bad...why can't i make up my mind if i like it?

went over the lxforums.com and looked at all the info on the gsm torque mgnt device they have now....i am on that man 200 for 1/2 second....can't spend money better than that

[GoofyGuy]

so whats it going to take to get a in car 0-60 then a cruise at 60 so I can hear it all. Thats most important to me is in car windows up air on and radio at say 6?

[Slugworth]

The 112's are the smaller tips and and have extra muffler chambers (I think these are called resonators?) just like on Borla's website. It is also the quieter of the two models. In a perfect world, I would have liked to have gotten the 125 kit (so I could get the nastier sound) but with the 112's smaller tips.



Thanks for the info, bstowers. I think my buzzing/vibration problem is that the muffler is touching or almost touching the rear bumper molding, causing the vibration when the car is running. It does it the most when I am stopped and I'm pushing on the brake pedal. I think the kit needs to be lowered a little bit. I'll be taking it back to the shop tomorrow morning.

[bstowers]

why not dynatech supermaxx?I can give you about a thousand reasons. Would you like them in large or small bills?

[GoDaddy]

what is the cost difference bstower - i was going to just save for the dynatech and didn't even consider the gibson and then are they putting out same power gains as dynatech....

ok anymore orders for the sound clips - should i do it standing on my head, chewing gum and rubbing my belly while going 100 with the windows down....hehe just playing around - not a problem at all - i will do a clip just like goofyguy and when you are in louisiana i drink budlight.

[Slugworth]

bstowers, you were correct. The vibration was caused by the cross member being too close. They also moved the ends away from the bumper a little more so they aren't touching. Sounds all good now...

[CO-Charger]

GoDaddy, I believe the Gibson's are what they call short tubes ("shorty's") where as the Dynatech's are long tube. From what I've read the long tube provide a better improvement over the short tubes since the OEM manifolds are nearly short tubes themselves. It could take me awhile, but I can try and scrounge up the information I was reading on the differences.

[CO-Charger]

It could take me awhile, but I can try and scrounge up the information I was reading on the differences.Ok, so it didn't take me as long as I thought it would. From a quick yahoo search I found two links to a couple of forums, that had specific long vs short tube discussions. Yes, one is on a ford/mustang forum, but try to ignore that part and just read it from a technical aspect. From what I read, long tube is the way to go (short tube is your only option if you are in California).

Link #1 (http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=65367), pay attention to posts #7, #10, and #18:

Link #2 (http://www.performancepark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=964), post #2 is the only relavent one.

Hope this helps. I know it convinced me that long tubes are in my future.

[GoDaddy]

good info cocharger thanks - i have always been partial to the dynatech so i am going that route..i saw your financing post - do they finance headers? lol... otherwise i am going to have to wait till xmas or after xmas. i am going to knock off the 100 to 300 dollar mods first, easier to ask wife for that stuff!!!! hehe

[bstowers]

i am going to knock off the 100 to 300 dollar mods first, easier to ask wife for that stuff!!!! heheIt's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission.

:evil:

[GoDaddy]

you are definitely former military...that sentence is the transition from enlisted to non com. brother....only problem with that is the c/o didn't put out...but when the wife stops putting out I have probs....lol

[bstowers]

you are definitely former military

http://www.military-graphics.com/USMCCPL.png

1990 - 1994

[GoDaddy]

semper fi brother!!! i was active army 95-98 and guard from 98 to this year as infantry scout, but my career is finishing up....going to have back surgery in late sept. at BAMC in san anton. for multiple disc herniations and a few fractures on my spine from an ied over in iraq, so i am going to medical out and let the young guys do it now (been overseas 3 times on deployments - I have done my time brother as i know you have also). :cool:

[04stang]

Dyno the car stock got 264 hp put k&n filter got 282hp with filter but the Borla exhaust and got 304 hp very happy here putting headers next at LUJANMOTORSPORTS IN MIAMI FLORIDA
a car with 340 hp only dyno'd 264 to the wheels? thats alittle odd to me, a car with 300 or so should dyno that, atleast thats what ive seen... is that a mustang dyno because they do show less hp on those..

[GoDaddy]

340 is base horse power not the wheel hp....that is what the engine is capable of putting out but once you hook up the tanny and hit the pavement you lose some hp b/c of the weight distribution of the car.

[CO-Charger]

340 is base horse power not the wheel hp....that is what the engine is capable of putting out but once you hook up the tanny and hit the pavement you lose some hp b/c of the weight distribution of the car.That is what he was saying GD:

a car with 340 hp only dyno'd 264 to the wheels?
As in why did it lose so much. I am with him, we all know that 340 is the base output, but to lose 76 HP because of drivetrain, etc. to end up with only 264 at the wheel? What wrong here?

[GoDaddy]

ohhh sorry i was in a daze or something when i read that and posted.....only thing i can think is that its summer and the heat sink issue.

[CO-Charger]

heat, altitude density, humidity... ok, I'm with you. if that reduces the 340 to say 320 or even 300 base, then 264 could be a viable whp number.

[1BADHEMI]

What Do You Guys Think Of The Zoomers Exhaust?? Worth The Dough??
I'm Considering Ordering It But Not Too Familiar With The System... Any Thoughts??? Thanks

[CO-Charger]

Try checking out the zoomer's threads and see what folks have already said about it. No need to hijak this thread. User search, its your friend.

[1BADHEMI]

Thanks..it's My First Time On Here.. Feel So Alone... Haha..thanks For Your Help

[GoDaddy]

well co charger my physics friend any answers to the loss.....mmmm..mmmm....what could be the culprit and can we mod it...lol???

[GoDaddy]

Thanks..it's My First Time On Here.. Feel So Alone... Haha..thanks For Your Help


hey badhemi welcome to the forum, zoomers are at zoomers.com and they have some sound bites also have some soundbites of the borla 125s on this site....there are a ton of options and everyone has an opinion. there are also magnaflow soundbites out there and flowmaster as well. just have to do a little "searching"...like co charger said the search is your friend.

i am partial to borla 125s obviously b/c i have them on...but look around...every set up possible is on this forum and there are some great guys out there....(yes i am sucking up for further info from fellow forum dudes).

and anyone with a daytona - i would love to hear the daytona - get me some sound bites...please, purdy purdy please!!!!????

[CO-Charger]

<shrug>... I don't have a clue.

[1BADHEMI]

Thanks For Your Help Guys... And Thanks Go Daddy For Answering All My "pm" Questions Yesterday Regarding Your Car It Really Came In Handy... Thanks Again...

[YellowJacket]

hey badhemi welcome to the forum, zoomers are at zoomers.com and they have some sound bites also have some soundbites of the borla 125s on this site....there are a ton of options and everyone has an opinion. there are also magnaflow soundbites out there and flowmaster as well. just have to do a little "searching"...like co charger said the search is your friend.

i am partial to borla 125s obviously b/c i have them on...but look around...every set up possible is on this forum and there are some great guys out there....(yes i am sucking up for further info from fellow forum dudes).

and anyone with a daytona - i would love to hear the daytona - get me some sound bites...please, purdy purdy please!!!!????

http://www.zoomersexhaust.com thats the site to get you to zoomers exhaust info