Who is the fastest 1/4?

[Thunderkiss]

Excluding the Viper and the soon to come SRT-Charger, which stock product in the Dodge family could take the 5.7 R/T Charger? :confused:

[srt4_me_2004]

SRT-4 modded to stage 3 will for sure. I know I have both. Will see bout a stock SRT-4. My plans are to have my charger to the track by Wednesday of next week. I can give a complete report then.

[Thunderkiss]

I meant pure factory, SRT's included, but no aftermarket mods.

[Inferno Charger]

Stock SRT-4 could do it and it would probably be a really close race too.

Later

[Thunderkiss]

Would the R/T Charger take the SRT-4 if it were a manual?

[Inferno Charger]

Dunno but I know the race (Stock vs. Stock) would be really close if the SRT had a horrible launch like they usually get from all of that wheel hop.

Later

[needasrt4]

Stock for Stock, SRT4 will outrun the Charger, have had both

We were gonna try to take the Charger to the track tonight but have to work instead

[srt4_me_2004]

Me and few, 5 or so, SRT-4 buddies of min are heading to the track tonight. Several are stock. I will pick the one with the best times and race him. I have talked my wife into bringing the Charger just for fun. I should have track times and some video to post tomorrow.

[GoDaddy]

oh very cool srt4 me 2004! i have no life right now so i will be looking forward to the videos and times!

[DAYTONA_R/T]

now granted I have not paid much attention to the SRT-4 at all, mainly because deep down it is still a neon (not cared for the neon since it was introduced)..... but from what I have seen in articles... its times are not that far off of the charger R/T, so in reality it would come down to the driver.....

[Big Country]

now granted I have not paid much attention to the SRT-4 at all, mainly because deep down it is still a neon (not cared for the neon since it was introduced)..... but from what I have seen in articles... its times are not that far off of the charger R/T, so in reality it would come down to the driver.....

You should test drive an SRT-4 once, you might not see it as just a neon any longer...lol. I have had a regular Neon R/T, and now own an SRT-4, trust me the two can not be more different as far as driving goes, in every form. If the Charger R/T is anything like the 300C (test drove one when they first came out), the SRT-4 will set you back in the seat every bit as much as the Charger R/T will.

I agree with you. Stock vs stock, it's going to be a drivers race. The performance numbers are very close. Stock SRT-4's are capable of running high 13's stock in the 1/4, I imagine the Charger R/T's will also. If a launch is involved, I'd give a slight edge to the Charger R/T due to the very thin line between big time wheel hop and massive wheel spin in the SRT-4. Driver ability is huge in an SRT-4, not so much a factor in the Charger R/T. I just wish I had a Charger R/T to park next to my SRT-4 :happy:

[manofsteelCHARGER]

the guys over here in my dealership have raced the srt4 and the magnum r/t and the magnum r/t spanked it and they raced the srt and the charger the charger spanked it and they raced the magnum r/t and the chaerger r/t and the charger spanked it and all the cars were stock

[radguy]

I will know tonight if the charger r/t is faster than or about the same as the srt-4. My 03 SRT-4 ran 14.01 @ 98 stock in 100 degree weather.

[GLHS837]

mano, don't trust results based on the dealership guys with brand new cars. Out in the real world, both cars get about the same 1/4 miles times. Most likely, they had no clue how to launch an SRT-4. Since it's going to be way easier to get a good launch in either the mag or the charger, chances are that it would turn out that way.

Daytona, you shoud try to get a ride in one, you just might be surprised:) My snobby Porsche owning friend certainly was.

[manofsteelCHARGER]

this test was done on the track when they go out and test drive the new cars. before they come out, and thats standard with all dealerships and their new cars. like some of my other friends from chevy are gonna go out putthe pedal to the floor on the new monte carlos and impala that come out with the v8 for 06

[manofsteelCHARGER]

plus for the troll guy i have test drove the daytona wasnt impressed at all. my charger has a way better get up and go. plus the exhaust wasnt impressing and the colors in the interior dont match.

[DAYTONA_R/T]

Daytona, you shoud try to get a ride in one, you just might be surprised:) My snobby Porsche owning friend certainly was.


Dont have any urge or reason to... now I wont sit here and say its a POS that does not perform or anything like that... it just does nothing for me... as I said, I have disliked the car since it came on the market... I will not go into other points of view I have on it, because it will just turn into a flame war between me and you guys that own them.... and will leave it at that.. we all have our own points of view on everything...

[Big Country]

Dont have any urge or reason to... now I wont sit here and say its a POS that does not perform or anything like that... it just does nothing for me... as I said, I have disliked the car since it came on the market... I will not go into other points of view I have on it, because it will just turn into a flame war between me and you guys that own them.... and will leave it at that.. we all have our own points of view on everything...

Naaa, it's all good. Us SRT-4 owners are used to people not giving our cars any respect. Is why we usually have to earn it. I understand what you are saying, and respect that. It's not for everybody, and that's why it's great there are so many different models out there. Hey, at least you are keeping it in the Dodge family!

I will say this, Charger R/T owners (and it's sister cars) that come up against an SRT-4 with somebody who actually knows how to drive it, are gonna be surprised to see it running door to door with them.

steel guy, I think the results you speak of are linked directly to the easy launching ability of the LX cars. With the autostick, and traction control, it's simply a matter of mashing the pedal and going. Anybody can do that (will be a little different in the SRT versions). Not so with the SRT-4, where you actually have a clutch, a tricky launch, and have to be able to shift gears extremely fast (preferrably WOT shifts) to get the best 1/4 mile time. A so so driver in an SRT-4 will lose to a Charger R/T in the 1/4, I don't doubt that. Hence the reason for the results you speak of most likely.

Bottom line is this. Both cars drive differently, and are also built for different purposes (they really shouldn't even be compared to each other), but in the end, they are both pretty fast, and great automobiles. Now if I can just hold off until the Challenger is released.

[camero]

Naaa, it's all good. Us SRT-4 owners are used to people not giving our cars any respect. Is why we usually have to earn it. I understand what you are saying, and respect that. It's not for everybody, and that's why it's great there are so many different models out there. Hey, at least you are keeping it in the Dodge family!

I will say this, Charger R/T owners (and it's sister cars) that come up against an SRT-4 with somebody who actually knows how to drive it, are gonna be surprised to see it running door to door with them.

steel guy, I think the results you speak of are linked directly to the easy launching ability of the LX cars. With the autostick, and traction control, it's simply a matter of mashing the pedal and going. Anybody can do that (will be a little different in the SRT versions). Not so with the SRT-4, where you actually have a clutch, a tricky launch, and have to be able to shift gears extremely fast (preferrably WOT shifts) to get the best 1/4 mile time. A so so driver in an SRT-4 will lose to a Charger R/T in the 1/4, I don't doubt that. Hence the reason for the results you speak of most likely.

Bottom line is this. Both cars drive differently, and are also built for different purposes (they really shouldn't even be compared to each other), but in the end, they are both pretty fast, and great automobiles. Now if I can just hold off until the Challenger is released.

Ya, I like the idea of that :)

[radguy]

Well made one pass as soon as I pulled though the gate. It was in the low 90's with high humidity. It was thundering and lightning when we got there. The charger had 528 miles on it. I staged with out doing a burnout and pulled a horrible 60'. Hopefully I will get some better passes next week.
Here is the slip.
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/726/chargerslip7jv.th.jpg (http://img45.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chargerslip7jv.jpg)
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Is there anyone that can host a video for me? If so I have one of my lone pass.

[AZCHARGER]

1/8 mile track, ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

J/K :santa:

[radguy]

No its is a 1000' track (340' longer than the 1/8). I was going to drive 2 hours to the 1/4 but it was raining there. So I took a chance and went to the local track, but guess what the rain did not hold off long enough.

[srt4_me_2004]

Well here is the times for my track run last night. I can tell from the heated discussions between yesterday and today that this will produce some interesting reactions.

Track conditions Upper 80's maybe even 90 degrees. 95% relative humidity. I don't have official conditions this is my guessing. The track is outside of Waco TX. Temple Academy Raceway.

Track prep was pittiful.

I took off traction control to burn out then turned it back on for the run. I did not get any tire noticable tire spin on launch.

Reaction time .0185
60 ft 2.3998
330 ft 6.5618
1/8th 9.9163
1/4 15.2027

The Charger is a completly stock RT including Continental tires.

I friend did video tape the run from the water box area so he has the launch and first 330 ft or so. I don't have a copy to post yet but I look forward to doing so in another post.

[Inferno Charger]

Well made one pass as soon as I pulled though the gate. It was in the low 90's with high humidity. It was thundering and lightning when we got there. The charger had 528 miles on it. I staged with out doing a burnout and pulled a horrible 60'. Hopefully I will get some better passes next week.

Actually that is not a half bad run and would have been a low 14 second 1/4 mile run. Would have given my car a run for its money up to the 1/8 mile.

2.4L Turbo ACR Neon (Best to date on actual street tires)

R/T: .796
60': 2.244
330: 5.908
1/8: 8.846
MPH: 84.12
1000: 11.374
1/4: 13.542
MPH: 104.28

Your Charger R/T

R/T: .613
60': 2.234
330': 6.166
1/8: 9.373
MPH: 77.33
1000: 11.949
1/4: 14.5 (Est.)
MPH: 95.9 (Est.)

Later

[DAYTONA_R/T]

since this seems to be a thred that alot of neon owners are posting in... here is a t-shirt for you.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/bp_fire/crap/lug.jpg

[Inferno Charger]

since this seems to be a thred that alot of neon owners are posting in... here is a t-shirt for you.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/bp_fire/crap/lug.jpg

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Must have an inferiority complex or something.......

[radguy]

I had a 95 ACR, bought it to do some road racing that work interfered with. I finally sold it last year.

[GLHS837]

since this seems to be a thred that alot of neon owners are posting in... here is a t-shirt for you.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/bp_fire/crap/lug.jpg

Now, Daytona, be nice, my Neon makes more torque than a 5.7 :biggrin:

Face it, the Charger is attracting a lot of folks who also own SRTs or modded Neons. We draw the comparison to what we know, with the full understanding that the Charger weighs 1,000lbs more. When we make these comparisons, they are in no way to belittle the Charger, just putting it in terms we know.

The SVTperformance crowd draws parallels to Fords, while the Chevy guys use cars they know.

[radguy]

Here are a few slips for comparison.

Here is my 03 SRT-4 with stage one.(#342)
http://www.geocities.com/shel_2999/slowslip.html

Here is my 04 forester xt with exhaust and tune. (#342)
http://img153.exs.cx/img153/783/31205centerville0pi.th.jpg (http://img153.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img153&image=31205centerville0pi.jpg)
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Here is me at the track in a stock 04 GTO MT. (#342)
http://img101.echo.cx/img101/7586/043005gto5ob.th.jpg (http://img101.echo.cx/my.php?image=043005gto5ob.jpg)
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Here is my 04 Hemi ram stock.
http://www.geocities.com/shel_2999/hemitimeslip.JPG

[srt4_me_2004]

Got my slip scanned. Here is the post. One thing to add to the earlier post. I let the Charger shift itself.

http://tinypic.com/a40by0.jpg

[Dutch]

Didn't you already post a slip of your Charger's run? THe one you just posted above is very different, and I find it hard to believe a Hemi Charger could run 15.2 or a 2.399 60' time. Is this from a different car?

[srt4_me_2004]

Didn't you already post a slip of your Charger's run? THe one you just posted above is very different, and I find it hard to believe a Hemi Charger could run 15.2 or a 2.399 60' time. Is this from a different car?

Dutch.. on 8/06 I posted the times. Took a couple of days to get the slip scanned and posted. I was kinda hoping someone would notice my reaction time of .0185 and compliment me.. guess not on this forum. I did post it in another thread at the same time. So technically it is posted in two different threads on the same night.

[Big Country]

Dutch.. on 8/06 I posted the times. Took a couple of days to get the slip scanned and posted. I was kinda hoping someone would notice my reaction time of .0185 and compliment me.. guess not on this forum. I did post it in another thread at the same time. So technically it is posted in two different threads on the same night.

Wow, you are slow. Just kidding man...lol. Good job. Question is, can you do it every time or did you just get lucky?

[JSA 007]

I find it hard to believe a Hemi Charger could run 15.2 or a 2.399 60' time. Is this from a different car?

I'd believe it. Try racing in Vegas in the heat or up at denver with an N/A car and times are a full second or more off...:eek:

[Inferno Charger]

I'd believe it. Try racing in Vegas in the heat or up at denver with an N/A car and times are a full second or more off...:eek:

Need forced induction to make up the difference then ;)

[SRT-8 Blackness]

<-----Turbo Neons Rock!

Cant wait to see the SRT-8 numbers.
Some of the 300c guys were making low 13's and high 12's

[06HemiLover]

[QUOTE=srt4_me_2004]Got my slip scanned. Here is the post. One thing to add to the earlier post. I let the Charger shift itself.

Hi,

Great reaction time (sorry its late but I'm new to the forum).

I took my stock R/T to the track a couple weeks ago, my first time ever going down a drag strip! Best time was my first run, a 14.47 with a marginal reaction time of .626 but after several runs I was able to get my reaction time down to .223 I still never did beat my first run time though.

I have to say it was a blast, even though I got tired of guys asking if I was driving my boyfriend's car!

Hope to do it again soon!

06HemiLover

PS. The Charger did better when I was not interfering in the shifting. I really do not use the slapshift, so when I tried to on the track all it did was slow me down a little :(

[Cummins]

I thought i heard that the SRT JEEP was sposed to be pretty quick.

[KCCharger07]

I raced him twice at Heartland Park Topeka legal drag night. He beat me both times but he had lots of mods. It was a close race but the Neon is extremly fast off the line. Both of our reaction times were slow. I'll get my slips from work tomorrow and post the times. It was around 14.4 for the neon, 14.9 for my charger. Track temp was 97 degrees so going to be slower then normal.

[fluffykush]

What about a dodge stealth R/T TT? I think it will take a stock charger R/T