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: Rear Rotors on My 06 Daytona


Westcoastkevin
03-28-2009, 04:36 PM
Are the OE rear rotors a different size on the R/T than the Daytona R/T?

Grave.Digger
03-28-2009, 05:06 PM
They should be the same on the R/T & Daytona's

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sound&security
03-28-2009, 05:07 PM
se and sxt with 17 inch wheels have a solid rear rotor and daytona's and rt's with the r/t package have a vented rotor AS DOES THE STANDARD RT BUT there is a difference in the thickness also. so you have to tell who ever is ordering them what you have and your vin code [ H OR G] WILL BE FOUND IN THE LAST 9 NUMBERS OF YOUR VIN#
w CODE IS SRT

Grave.Digger
03-28-2009, 05:17 PM
Solid Rear Rotor? Didn't know those still existed

Hemi31
03-28-2009, 05:23 PM
RT's have a solid rear rotor and daytona's and rt's with the r/t package have a vented rotor. there is a difference in the thickness also. so you have to tell who ever is ordering them what you haveNo they don't.....R/T's have vented rear rotor's and I am pretty sure 99% that in 06' the R/T and Daytona had the same rotor......they didn't go to the heavy duty rotors till 07' on the R&T and Daytona.

Westcoastkevin
03-28-2009, 08:16 PM
Why I asked is because I ordered dimpled and slotted aftermarket rotors according to vehicle make, model, sub-model etc... and recieved rear rotors that are actually larger than the front ones. Now I have the joy of sending them back.

Grave.Digger
03-29-2009, 05:40 AM
That's odd, Do they look bigger than these?

Stillen Sport Rotors Installed (http://www.chargerforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1711580#post1711580)

Westcoastkevin
03-29-2009, 12:11 PM
I purchased these online from Brake Perfomance.com. Hopefully they will work with me on the correct ones, ie..shipping. I really could'nt tell from your pics. I know that my stock rears are smaller than the front but, the new rears are even bigger than the new fronts. I think the supplier has a x-reference issue, maybe I'm the first to get these things. Thats a sweet ride you have there!!

Grave.Digger
03-29-2009, 03:01 PM
That's messed up, My rear set is smaller than the front. anything larger wouldn't fit with the caliper mount. Only thing I can think of is they set you rotors designed for a "Big Brake" system. good luck

Hemi31
03-29-2009, 04:17 PM
They probably sent you SRT rotors.

Westcoastkevin
03-30-2009, 07:30 PM
When you say heavy duty, are you refering to the diameter of both front and rear? or just the rear?

Santagata
03-30-2009, 07:34 PM
I think the rear rotors has a different size rotors than the front!

sound&security
03-31-2009, 10:50 AM
No they don't.....R/T's have vented rear rotor's and I am pretty sure 99% that in 06' the R/T and Daytona had the same rotor......they didn't go to the heavy duty rotors till 07' on the R&T and Daytona.

sxt and rt's in 06 have one part number for the rear rotors AND 06 rt r/t and daytonas have another part number due to rotor thicknest.
some one sent me at one time rt rotors and they didnt fit. it was off by 1.79 milimeters

Crow
03-31-2009, 03:17 PM
Here are the specs for the 2006.

17" base model uses single piston calipers. 18" uses dual piston, and srt uses 4 piston brembos.

Basically, 17 inch wheels have base brakes, 18 inch wheels use the preimum brakes.

The thickness of the rotor is for getting more use out of the rotor before scrapping it, hence the "heavy duty" term.

Improved braking comes from the diameter of the rotor becasue you have more surface area to grab. Thickness does nothing for you but extend the life of the rotor.

Crow
03-31-2009, 03:31 PM
Why I asked is because I ordered dimpled and slotted aftermarket rotors according to vehicle make, model, sub-model etc... and recieved rear rotors that are actually larger than the front ones. Now I have the joy of sending them back.

Larger by how? Overall diameter or thickness.

Hemi31
03-31-2009, 03:42 PM
sxt and rt's in 06 have one part number for the rear rotors AND 06 rt r/t and daytonas have another part number due to rotor thicknest.
some one sent me at one time rt rotors and they didnt fit. it was off by 1.79 milimeters
Oh god this is my favorite part.........
06 Charger R/T(no performance package)
Front rotor-4779197AD rear rotor-4779209AC
ready now?here it comes.......
06 Charger R&T
Front rotor-4779197AD rear rotor-4779209AC
this is from the book using VIN identification on both cars.

Edit....just so there is no mistake the rotors on the 07 Daytona and R&T are Front-4779197AD and rear 4779209AC,but the front pads are much larger.The Police package is the only one with a larger rear rotor.

Westcoastkevin
03-31-2009, 07:38 PM
Dude sounds like you know your stuff, Max diameter would be a good dimension to know. This aftermarket brake supplier is telling me I must not have the "Daytona edition" way is it Iand read "Daytona" from every angle of my car, #0854 of 2000 TorRed Daytona? Can't wait till they figure it out and send me the corrct rotors...Thanks!!!

Hemi31
04-03-2009, 06:49 AM
Dude sounds like you know your stuff, Max diameter would be a good dimension to know. This aftermarket brake supplier is telling me I must not have the "Daytona edition" way is it Iand read "Daytona" from every angle of my car, #0854 of 2000 TorRed Daytona? Can't wait till they figure it out and send me the corrct rotors...Thanks!!!Well you can tell the guy he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about......I just put the stock rotors from my 300C which had like 100 miles on them on WitchyWndy's 2007 Daytona and they were identical in diameter,thickness and depth from the hat........again,only SRT's and the rears of the police package are different.ALL R/T, R&T, and Daytona rotors from 2005 to 2007 are the same......not sure from 2008 up.And the 2007 Daytona and R&T has a different pad.

sound&security
04-03-2009, 01:17 PM
Oh god this is my favorite part.........
06 Charger R/T(no performance package)
Front rotor-4779197AD rear rotor-4779209AC
ready now?here it comes.......
06 Charger R&T
Front rotor-4779197AD rear rotor-4779209AC
this is from the book using VIN identification on both cars.

Edit....just so there is no mistake the rotors on the 07 Daytona and R&T are Front-4779197AD and rear 4779209AC,but the front pads are much larger.The Police package is the only one with a larger rear rotor.

OH BOY HERE WE GO!! HOW OUT DATED IS THE BOOK YOU LOOKING THIS UP IN.???
MY 06 rt r/t was built on 10-06 and part number #4779209ac will not fit
they are too small!!! NOR will they fit a daytona will a build data of the same time. CENTRIC makes rotors for the 3.5 vented and the rt vented part number 4779209ac crosed over to> 1276362 and for the rt r/t and daytonas built 9/06 threw 1/06 the part # is 127.63065 and there is a right hand side and a left hand side and these ARE NOT DRILLED OR SLOTED so the right and left hand side makes no sence. part #127.63065 is a larger rear rotor

i just called my buddy at chryslers parts warehouse in tampa and ran my vin 3 times-first time part #4779209ac came up than the 2nd and third time he ran the vin and build data and part# cant be found came up.

Hemi31
04-03-2009, 02:51 PM
OH BOY HERE WE GO!! HOW OUT DATED IS THE BOOK YOU LOOKING THIS UP IN.???
MY 06 rt r/t was built on 10-06 and part number #4779209ac will not fit
they are too small!!! NOR will they fit a daytona will a build data of the same time. CENTRIC makes rotors for the 3.5 vented and the rt vented part number 4779209ac crosed over to> 1276362 and for the rt r/t and daytonas built 9/06 threw 1/06 the part # is 127.63065 and there is a right hand side and a left hand side and these ARE NOT DRILLED OR SLOTED so the right and left hand side makes no sence. part #127.63065 is a larger rear rotor

i just called my buddy at chryslers parts warehouse in tampa and ran my vin 3 times-first time part #4779209ac came up than the 2nd and third time he ran the vin and build data and part# cant be found came up.oh boy considering this came right from the dealer through Star,and it's listing 08's and 09's I'd say it pretty new:rolleyes2:Wanna try something.....go measure the diameter of your mystery rotors since they are apparently different than every other and I will measure it against the spares on my shelf.

sound&security
04-03-2009, 05:54 PM
SO PLEASE EXPLAIN this since you believe every chrysler part number.

why is it that part #4779209AC doesnt fit my car and the rear pads ride on the outter edge of the rotor as they do with the centric dirrect replacement part # 1276362
BUT when i install the centric rotor part # 127.63065L and 127.63065R they fit and the pads ride 2.5 mm inward from the outter edge of the rotor??

TOP NOTCH brake performance shop [that turned down 1fst4drs sloted rotors when others said they couldnt] tryed to install centric daytona sloted rotors they had in the store room on a 06 standard rt and they couldnt get the hangers back on cause the rotors hit the outter edge???

SO centric has no reason in this world to have a part number for the vented 3.5 and rt and a 2nd part number for a daytona and rt with r/t

sound&security
04-03-2009, 08:26 PM
just to be a total a hole-i just spent the last hour pulling my rear wheel and rotor to messure and spected out at 12.6 and 3/8's and i bet my a$$ that if you messure your rotors you have laying around they spec out at 12.6 and this will be the reason my pads fit the centrics and ride the edge of the factory rotors.
I have 5/16th between the hanger and the rotor edge.
PULLED FiFi hemis 08 300 rear off and her rotor messures out at 12.6 on the mark!
messured between the rotor edge and the hanger at 9/32's give or take a 16th. her hangers will never clear my rotors.

Hemi31
04-03-2009, 09:22 PM
just to be a total a hole-i just spent the last hour pulling my rear wheel and rotor to messure and spected out at 12.6 and 3/8's and i bet my a$$ that if you messure your rotors you have laying around they spec out at 12.6 and this will be the reason my pads fit the centrics and ride the edge of the factory rotors.
I have 5/16th between the hanger and the rotor edge.
PULLED FiFi hemis 08 300 rear off and her rotor messures out at 12.6 on the mark!
messured between the rotor edge and the hanger at 9/32's give or take a 16th. her hangers will never clear my rotors.first I would love for you to explain wtf 12.6 and 3/8 means?it's either 12.6 or 12 and 3/8th?Not quite understanding the way you read a ruler.....sorry.Are you trying to say they are 13.0?Cause I measure the rotor as 12 5/8"......3/8" more would make it a 13" rotor.Just curious if your pads ride funny cause you got the wrong pads.
Oh......just an FYI....The police rotor for the rear is 13.78"....same as an SRT......quite a bit larger than what you measured yours at....so you don't have PP rotors.

sound&security
04-04-2009, 04:36 PM
SO i talked to PRR today about my brakes.
and this is what i got.
ALL-SXT 3.5 with 18 inch wheels and vented rotors and all daytona's-rt's and r/t with r/t use a 345mm diamater x 26.5 mm thick rear rotor.

BUT the early 6H OR 9H code daytona's and rt r/t's built before mid jan 06 GOT A 350mm x 28mm thick rotor on the rears

so this IS why chrysler part number #4779209ac wont fit my car and my pads ride on the outter lip of the rotor and 2 mm of pad rides off the rotor-theres a 5 mm difference between the rotors in outter diam.

THIS is also the reason why CENTRIC has a part number of 1276362 to fit the sxt 3.5 with vented rotors and 18 inch wheels and it WILL FIT the h code rt-daytona and road and track.

BUT it will NOT FIT a early 6H vin coded daytona or road and track before 2/06 so the part # is 127.63065 =350mm x 28 mm by their part listings.

13.78 ON A 18 INCH WHEEL POLICE package is cutting it pretty close. 13.78 on the rotor and factor in the the 3.25 inchs of the caliber hanging off the end of the hanger leaves you a hair over a inch between the wheel and brake caliber
PRR claims the police rotor is 350 mm x28mm for replacement. i'll run a police package this week of a sheriff car.

Hemi31
04-04-2009, 05:02 PM
SO i talked to PRR today about my brakes.
and this is what i got.
ALL-SXT 3.5 with 18 inch wheels and vented rotors and all daytona's-rt's and r/t with r/t use a 345mm diamater x 26.5 mm thick rear rotor.

BUT the early 6H OR 9H code daytona's and rt r/t's built before mid jan 06 GOT A 350mm x 28mm thick rotor on the rears

so this IS why chrysler part number #4779209ac wont fit my car and my pads ride on the outter lip of the rotor and 2 mm of pad rides off the rotor-theres a 5 mm difference between the rotors in outter diam.

THIS is also the reason why CENTRIC has a part number of 1276362 to fit the sxt 3.5 with vented rotors and 18 inch wheels and it WILL FIT the h code rt-daytona and road and track.

BUT it will NOT FIT a early 6H vin coded daytona or road and track before 2/06 so the part # is 127.63065 =350mm x 28 mm by their part listings.

13.78 ON A 18 INCH WHEEL POLICE package is cutting it pretty close. 13.78 on the rotor and factor in the the 3.25 inchs of the caliber hanging off the end of the hanger leaves you a hair over a inch between the wheel and brake caliber
PRR claims the police rotor is 350 mm x28mm for replacement. i'll run a police package this week of a sheriff car.OK....that makes more sense.As far as the 13.78 rotor with an 18" wheel......we run 17" rims on them at the track......18" has more than enough room.So heres a question......you said your car was built 10/06 but the big rotors were used on cars built before 2/06.........which dates are you messing up?

fargo59
04-04-2009, 06:02 PM
se and sxt with 17 inch wheels have a solid rear rotor and daytona's and rt's with the r/t package have a vented rotor AS DOES THE STANDARD RT BUT there is a difference in the thickness also. so you have to tell who ever is ordering them what you have and your vin code [ H OR G] WILL BE FOUND IN THE LAST 9 NUMBERS OF YOUR VIN#
w CODE IS SRT

i have many vins bookmarked from SRT's, R/T's, R&T's and daytona's of varying years. almost ALL of the RT, R&T, and daytona's have the same brake parts. all but one have the same rotors in the rear. its a police package 08 car. RT, R&T and daytona's have the same rotors. they are 12.625" vented rear rotors. i have vins of LX's from early builds (04) through 2009. if you have proof of the rotors being different, please send me a vin, and i will run it through star parts.

on a side note. the only letter in the last nine digits is the check digit. almost all have an "H". even the V6 models i have bookmarked have an H in that digit

Hemi31
04-04-2009, 06:05 PM
For those that don't know Fargo is a tech for Dodge.

sound&security
04-05-2009, 04:30 PM
I have a account and pass code with CHRYSLER fleet service parts
ran a 08 police charger vin today and got this part# on the rear for all police package chargers/maggies
780395AC is the rear rear rotor [WHAT EVER THE H3LL THAT MEANS]> REAR REAR
780256AC is the left rear rotor

WTF-on national back order and was told to call ROK BROTHERS fleet parts
same part # only drop the AC-WAIT A MINUTE!! these are RAYBESTOS part #s

THE police rotors by raybestos listing are 12.74 or 350mm and have a right and left side
just like centrics part # 127.63065R right and 127.63065L LEFT 350mm to fit early run 06 daytona/road and track!

RAYBESTOS part # 780257 for the g and h code lx = 12.6 or 345 mm and will fit either side of course.

SO is S&S AND HEMI31 DRINKING WITH FLEX way to much?
OR is chrysler so F'ed up they dont know what the hell is going on with the cars and part numbers???

order a roof molding a year ago threw chrysler-ordered another one 5 months ago using the same part# and was sent a glove box J hook for the string that helps support the opening of the glove box on the right side with the same part # on the bag as my roof molding a year before.

sound&security
04-05-2009, 04:35 PM
OK....that makes more sense.As far as the 13.78 rotor with an 18" wheel......we run 17" rims on them at the track......18" has more than enough room.So heres a question......you said your car was built 10/06 but the big rotors were used on cars built before 2/06.........which dates are you messing up?

sorry about that-meant 10/05 is the build data

sound&security
04-05-2009, 05:58 PM
Solid Rear Rotor? Didn't know those still existed

se 2.7 and sxt 3.5 17 inch wheel has a listing for solid rear rotors.
if they changed threw the model years that may be.

fargo59
04-05-2009, 06:05 PM
here's a table i made a few months back (based off vins in star parts)
http://www.lxforums.com/board/showpost.php?p=2132432&postcount=10
send me your vin (via PM) and i will verify your part number accuracy.

780395AC is the rear rear rotor [WHAT EVER THE H3LL THAT MEANS]> REAR REAR
780256AC is the left rear rotor


part numbers ending in odd numbers are generally Left side parts, evens being the ones on the right. also, those part numbers are incomplete (missing a digit). they do not refer to any parts currently in the database.

sound&security
04-05-2009, 06:09 PM
OK HERES A GOOD ONE!!
BRAKE TECH-in ISRAEL claims THAT THEIR PART # 3339956.7L AND 3339956.8R FIT'S all 05-current model year chrysler LX platform police package cars. 12.74 [350mm diam]
they have a side note that states it will fit 05-07 euro spec 300's

Gabe
04-05-2009, 07:12 PM
350 mm = 13.77"


Not 12.74"

fargo59
04-05-2009, 07:21 PM
350 mm = 13.77"


Not 12.74"

true. thats an SRT rotor.

russell072009
06-09-2010, 04:16 AM
OK i'm sorry to drag up an old thread here but did anyone actually answer the original question? I'm having the same issue with my daytona. build date 12/05.

zoomzoom1
06-09-2010, 09:15 AM
The rears are the same on the R/T and Daytonas, Brakeperformance uses your Vin to match the rotors now compared to packages data they used to have....

russell072009
06-09-2010, 03:40 PM
OK so here's what i found so far. the standard 320mm DO NOT FIT my charger. what i believe is that i have the police 350mm rotors. i have a set on order and i'll let you know tomorrow.